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Because we are going to have a 6000+ year history, the Chronicles are soon going to become so long that even 2000 years from now only the Wise are going to have the time to read them. How, then shall the common people remember our history? They will be so discouraged at its length that they will not have the heart to even look at our scrolls, even the exciting ones. And then they will be indifferent to their Spanish culture, and will easily convert to other inferior, yet not so burdensome, cultures.

Therefore, so that our history is not forgotten, in order to lessen the burden of memory on the common people who do not have time to read our whole history, and on the little children learning about our history from their elders, I begin here the Annals of Iberia, in which I provide a simple and easily remembered list of our glorious rulers of the House of Togas, together with the most important thing they did during their reigns.

May the Spirits bless me in this my endeavour.

Ronní the Annalist

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Editor’s note, edition of 1597 A.D.

Two dates are provided here: the first in the ancient pagan calendar dating from the Battle of the Plains of Santiago, and the second in the modern calendar dating from the Incarnation of Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ.

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The Rule of the House of Togas

0-9 Togas I the Elder, 9 years. He led the great battle against Alaric the Visigoth at the Plains of Santiago, which united the tribes into the great Spanish nation. Upon his death Ceremonial Burial was invented. 4026-4017 BC

9-25 Togas II the Wanderer, his son, 16 years. During these years the Spanish nation wandered from place to place looking for a homeland. In his reign the Alphabet was invented. 4017-4001 BC

25-38 Togas III the Builder, his son, 13 years. He founded Madrid. 4001-3988 BC

38-50 Eneretogo I, his son, 12 years. 3988-3976 BC

50-59 Vatogallo I, his son, 9 years. 3976-3967 BC

59-88 Eneretogo II, his brother, 29 years. 3967-3938 BC

88-115 Eneretogo III, his grandson, 27 years. 3938-3911 BC

115-126 Vatogallo II, his son, 11 years, 3911-3900 BC

126-140 Togatxall I, his brother, 14 years, 3900-3886 BC

140-165 Antogasso I, his son, 25 years, 3886-3861 BC

165-169 Togatxall II, his son, 4 years, 3861-3857 BC

169-180 Eneretogo IV, his uncle, 11 years, 3857-3846 BC

180 Eneretogo V, his son, 0 years, 3846 BC

180-192 Eustogkaro I, his uncle, 12 years, 3846-3834 BC

192-226 Cistogon I, his son, 34 years, 3834-3800 BC

226-228 Togatxall III, his son, 2 years, 3800-3798 BC

228-239 Vatogallo III, his son, 11 years, 3798-3787 BC

239-271 Cistogon II, his son, 32 years, 3787-3755 BC

271-280 Eneretogo VI, his son, 9 years, 3755-3746 BC. During his reign the Gold Mountain was discovered.

280-300 Cistogon III, his son, 20 years, 3746-3726 BC

300-303 Cistogon IV, his son, 3 years, 3726-3723 BC

303-305 Eneretogo VII, his brother, 2 years, 3723-3721 BC

305-333 Hertogaus I, his cousin, 28 years, 3721-3693 BC. During his reign the Valley of Cows was discovered.

333-362 Eustogkaro II, his son, 29 years, 3693-3664 BC

362-380 Antogasso II, his son, 18 years, 3664-3646 BC.

380-381 Hertogaus II, his son, 1 year, 3646-3645 BC.

381-384 Hertogaus III, his uncle, 3 years, 3645-3642 BC

384-403 Cistogon V, his son, 19 years, 3642-3623 BC

403-436 Cistogon VI, his grandson, 33 years, 3623-3590 BC. During his reign the Jungle Squid that make thread were discovered.

436-444 Hertogaus IV, his son, 8 years, 3590-3582 BC

444-463 Gartzogi I, his brother, 19 years, 3582-3563 BC

463-468 Vatogallo IV, his brother, 5 years, 3563-3558 BC

468-495 Cistogon VII, his son, 27 years, 3558-3531 BC.

495-519 Gartzogi II, his son, 24 years, 3531-3507 BC

519 Cistogon VIII, his son, 0 years, 3507 BC

519-531 Cistogon IX, his uncle, 12 years, 3507-3495 BC. The heathen Magyar tribe was subdued and Forest Thread-making Squid were discovered.

531-551 Vatogallo V, his son, 20 years, 3495-3475 BC

551-575 Vatogallo VI, his son, 24 years, 3475-3451 BC

575-578 Leizarrataga, his son, 3 years, 3451-3448 BC

578-591 Indartsogu I, his brother, 13 years, 3448-3435 BC

591-594 Gartzogi III, his brother, 3 years, 3435-3432 BC

594-610 Gartzogi IV, his son, 16 years, 3432-3416 BC

610-611 Cistogon X, his son, 1 year, 3416-3415 BC

611-633 Hertogaus V, his uncle, 22 years, 3415-3393 BC

633-666 Cistogon XI, his grandson, 33 years, 3393-3360 BC

666-680 Decedretego I, his son, 14 years, 3360-3346 BC

680 Indartsogu II, his son, 0 years, 3346 BC

680-710 Decedretego II, his brother, 30 years, 3346-3316 BC

710-738 Gartzogi V, his son, 28 years, 3316-3288 BC

738-748 Gartzogi VI, his son, 10 years, 3288-3278 BC

748-753 Hertogaus VI, his brother, 5 years, 3278-3273 BC

753-779 Gartzogi VII, his cousin, 26 years, 3273-3247 BC

779-787 Agoztagar I, his son, 8 years, 3247-3239 BC

787-792 Decedretego III, his brother, 5 years, 3239-3234 BC

792-802 Gartzogi VIII, his brother, 10 years, 3239-3229 BC

802-807 Agoztagar II, his son, 5 years, 3229-3224 BC

807-821 Vatogallo VII, his brother, 14 years, 3224-3210 BC

821-849 Cistogon XII, his brother, 28 years, 3210-3182 BC

849-851 Agoztagar III, his son, 2 years, 3182-3180 BC

851-882 Decedretego IV, his brother, 31 years, 3180-3149 BC. In his reign the Spanish discovered they were not the only civilization in the world by making contact with the Arabs.

882-888 Eustogkaro III, his son, 6 years, 3149-3141 BC

888-898 Cistogon XIII, his brother, 10 years, 3141-3131 BC

898-922 Gartzogi IX, his son, 24 years, 3131-3107 BC

922-932 Gartzogi X, his son, 10 years, 3107-3097 BC

932-960 Gartzogi XI, his nephew, 28 years, 3097-3069 BC

960-992 Cistogon XIV, his son, 32 years, 3069-3037 BC. In his reign Arab wise men came to visit Spain and taught us how to make containers out of clay (Pottery) and how to pile brick on top of brick (Masonry). In return the Arabs took home the knowledge of the Alphabet, but left the vowels behind.

992-999 Gartzogi XII, his son, 7 years, 3037-3030 BC

999-1007 Cistogon XV, his brother, 8 years, 3030-3022 BC

1007-1009 Cistogon XVI, his son, 2 years, 3022-3020 BC

1009-1013 Gartzogi XIII, his brother, 4 years, 3020-3016 BC

1013-1026 Vatogallo VIII, his uncle, 13 years, 3016-3003 BC

1026-1033 Decedretego V the Builder, his son, 7 years, 3003-2996 BC. In his reign Pamplona was founded and the Spaniards discovered Bronze. The Ottomans made their presence known in the world.

1033-1052 Hertogaus VII, his son, 19 years, 2996 BC-2977 BC

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Footnotes:

1. In honour of the three Togases, the Elder, the Wanderer, and himself, the Builder, Togas III decreed that all Despots of the dynasty would forevermore commemorate the achievements of all three by having the syllable -tog- in their official regnal name. So Enero would be Eneretogo, Vallo would be Vatogallo, etc.

[OOC: Or maybe it’s Señor Pikesfan who invented the decree... it’s those who bother to take up the pen that write the history ]

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Notes, to explain the method to my madness, which will eventually be deleted once they are no longer noteworthy:

1. Because Togas is starting to call himself Enero, an Enero is ruling during 3950 BC. (This is what I mean about listening to Togas.)

2. But because 50 years is too long a reign for the Late Stone Age, I interpolated a couple of names so that the length of reigns are realistic for the time period. Therefore we are “really” in Eneretogo II as the official name in the chronicles and for carving on the base of statues, but everyone just refers to him Enero when they dare to refer to him by name, Enero II if they want to be formal, yet still daring. To call him Eneretogo II in his hearing would imply that he was dead, which is not a good thing...

3. The maximum reign in the Stone Age will be 35 years. So I am having QuattroPro pick a random number between 0 and 35.

4. Once we enter the Bronze Age, the maximum reign will be 40 years.

5. When I was a child, I used to love making up dynasties.

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(Calamari Family Tree)

Pedro de History Guy Calamari, called 'El Burro'
5123 - 4081

Pedro was, according to family historians, the first true head of the tribe of the Calamari, the unifier, so to speak. In 2098, at the battle of the Hovel Hill, Pedro charged his small army to destroy the Calamarquists, the renegade faction of the Calamari clan. Pedro unified the Calamaris, but was murdered by a treacherous dancing midget in the year 2081. The midget subsequently escaped into the desert to become a hermit.

Pedro's most famous saying was: "I am not a fool. I just don't know how to act." He was known for being a bit slow at the wit, and was thus the family's black sheep until the unification. From that point on, they all waited for the assassination they knew would come, and were happy to receive as clan head...

Juan de History Guy Calamari (called El Toro)
4074 - 4036

Juan de History Guy Calamari was the favorite of the Calamari clan during the period that Pedro ruled. He became even more famous when he chipped in at the famous meeting of the tribes and gave one of the deciding votes on the unification. He also had a prominent part in the battle of Santiago, and the subsequent battle of Madrid, and some claim that he was the slayer of Alaric's son. His most famous achievement was to fry squid and eat it for the first time, making Spain's favorite meal. He died of an illness in 2036.

He was best known for his incredible boldness and yet at the same time a genuine piety that perhaps influenced the religion of Iberia in a profound way.

Don History Guy Calamari (called El Proscuitto)
4053 - 4012

Don History Guy Calamari, known either as El Proscuitto or the Godfather, became the ninth official mayor of Madrid during his lifetime, but was forced to resign, and exiled into the squid business for reasons undisclosed. Whatever the reason, he constructed the world's most famous commercial business, El Squid Company, which monopolized seafood, but especially calamari. He controlled the company well, but he died as a result of a large oyster attempting to survive by latching onto his throat while he was trying to swallow it. He died within twelve minutes, and was greatly mourned all over Spain.

He was...well, there's not much we want to say about him.

Hernan de History Guy Calamari (called El Magnifico)
4031 - ????

Hernan de History Guy Calamari is the present head of the Calamari tribe, and the second most popular, only beaten by a nose by Juan the Great. He has strived to do all he can for the common good, and to battle as well as he can lawlessness and corruption (while under the protection of the government). He will reign over this tribe, hopefully, for a long time to come.

Viva Hernan!
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More notes:

I found a site which listed some ancient Basque names
http://www.geocities.com/mariamneph...opa/basque.html

and which listed some modern Basque names
http://www.kabalarians.com/male/basque-m.htm

so I decided to adopt those for dynastic names during the first three millennia.

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A

Agoztagar I 779-787
Agoztagar II 802-807
Agoztagar III 849-851
Antogasso I 140-165
Antogasso II 362-380

C

Cistogon I 192-226
Cistogon II 239-271
Cistogon III 280-300
Cistogon IV 300-303
Cistogon V 384-403
Cistogon VI 403-436
Cistogon VII 468-495
Cistogon VIII 519
Cistogon IX 519-531
Cistogon X 610-611
Cistogon XI 633-666
Cistogon XII 821-849
Cistogon XIII 888-898
Cistogon XIV 960-992
Cistogon XV 999-1007
Cistogon XVI 1007-1009

D

Decedretego I 666-680
Decedretego II 680-710
Decedretego III 787-792
Decedretego IV 851-882
Decedretego V 1026-1033

E

Eneretogo I 38-50
Eneretogo II 59-88
Eneretogo III 88-115
Eneretogo IV 169-180
Eneretogo V 180
Eneretogo VI 271-280
Eneretogo VII 303-305
Eustogkaro I 180-192
Eustogkaro II 333-362
Eustogkaro III 882-888

G

Gartzogi I 444-463
Gartzogi II 495-519
Gartzogi III 591-594
Gartzogi IV 594-610
Gartzogi V 710-738
Gartzogi VI 738-748
Gartzogi VII 753-779
Gartzogi VIII 792-802
Gartzogi IX 898-922
Gartzogi X 922-932
Gartzogi XI 932-960
Gartzogi XII 992-999
Gartzogi XIII 1009-1013

H

Hertogaus I 305-333
Hertogaus II 380-381
Hertogaus III 381-384
Hertogaus IV 436-444
Hertogaus V 611-633
Hertogaus VI 748-753
Hertogaus VII 1033-1052

I

Indartsogu I 578-591
Indartsogu II 680

L

Leizarrataga 575-578

T

Togas I 0-9
Togas II 9-25
Togas III 25-38
Togatxall I 126-140
Togatxall II 165-169
Togatxall III 226-228

V

Vatogallo I 50-59
Vatogallo II 115-126
Vatogallo III 228-239
Vatogallo IV 463-468
Vatogallo V 531-551
Vatogallo VI 551-575
Vatogallo VII 807-821
Vatogallo VIII 1013-1026

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If we really want to delude the other teams, I could post the Annals onto the PtW board (minus the deeds after Togas III). It would make them think we were so interested in pretending that we were too distracted to play Civ3 properly.

Note the new name under "D" in the index.

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And here is a compact family tree, done in the style of Burke’s Peerage. Have I nothing better to do? Not tonight I need some more exciting relations than son, brother, grandson, such as second cousin who gained the throne by murdering everyone before him in a hunting accident

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Togas I
  1. Togas II
    1a. Togas III
      1b. Eneretogo I
        1c. Vatogallo I
        2c. Eneretogo II
          1d. N
            1e. Eneretogo III
              1f. Vatogallo II
              2f. Togatxall I
                1g. Antogasso I
                  1h. Togatxall II
                2g. Eneretogo IV
                  1h. Eneretogo V
                3g. Eustogkaro I
                  1h. Cistogon I
                    1i. Togatxall III

Togatxall III
  1. Vatogallo III
    1a. Cistogon II
      1b. Eneretogo VI
        1c. Cistogon III
          1d. Cistogon IV
          2d. Eneretogo VII
        2c. N
          1d. Hertogaus I
            1e. Eustogkaro II
              1f. Antogasso II
                1g. Hertogaus II
              2f. Hertogaus III
                1g. Cistogon IV
                  1h. N
                    1i. Cistogon VI

Cistogon VI
  1. Hertogaus IV
  2. Gartzogi I
  3. Vatogallo IV
    1a. Cistogon VII
      1b. Gartzogi II
        1c. Cistogon VIII
      2b. Cistogon IX
        1c. Vatogallo V
          1d. Vatogallo VI
            1e. Leizarrataga
            2e. Indartsogu
            3e. Gartzogi III
              1f. Gartzogi IV
                1g. Cistogon X
              2f. Hertogaus V
                1h. N
                  1i. Cistogon XI
                    1j. Decedretogo

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quote: Originally posted by pikesfan Because we are going to have a 6000+ year history, the Chronicles are soon going to become so long that even 2000 years from now only the Wise are going to have the time to read them. How, then shall the common people remember our history? They will be so discouraged at its length that they will not have the heart to even look at our scrolls, even the exciting ones. And then they will be indifferent to their Spanish culture, and will easily convert to other inferior, yet not so burdensome, cultures.

Ronní,

Idea : put our history into heroic songs and poets, I think those are easier to remember. If we should let our children learn them by heart and they learn their children to do so, etc, our history can be remembered without clay-tablets.

Regards,

Aidun Cian

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Great, let’s have a fourth historian

The Chronicler (haven’t heard from him lately)
The Annalist, to record the reigns
The Chronologist, to record the events year-by-year
The Epicist, to set our deeds into poetry and song

	29-12-2002 01:45									#15
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Perhaps somebody who's better in English than I am should ask our most honoured leader Cistogon XIII to enter his service

Aidun Cian

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I may be interested in the ballads and sagas bit...

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quote: Originally posted by Aidun Perhaps somebody who's better in English than I am should ask our most honoured leader Cistogon XIII to enter his service Aidun Cian

Cistogon XIII (and all the rest of them) are completely imaginary. Right now our leader is Decedro Togas.

My idea is to give us a more realistic history as background. It might not be working Since the generations are flying past at this stage of the game we would either have to live as long as Methuselah or change roles every five minutes to actually play history. The first is not realistic and the second is too tiring

The only tie my annals have right now with the actual roleplayers is that I am using the name Decedretego a lot until Togas gets tired of being Decedro and decides to be something else. As the game periods grow shorter, the ruler lists will increasingly match up with what we are really doing and who is really running the game.

However, if people want to write stories and poems about Gartzogi VII, be my guest. And it would be neat to say to the other teams in passing that we discovered the existence of silk in 3500 BC during the reign of Cistogon VI, or better yet, sign a treaty with the name of my current imaginary ruler

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"...and Gartzogi Bristle-beard (for that t'was his name) seized his Foe-Hammer, and he, with all his might, borne of rage, seized with wrath, boiling with angry at the foul treachery before him, raised the axe on high, mightily above his head, cutting the very air, severing the sky, and knifing the heavens, which blackened above him, as dark thunder-roar broke above him, and rain-water trickled from the sky. Brodgar Worm-whistle broke away, seized with panic, horror-striken, dumb-founded, terrorized, and the axe came down, shattering bone-skull..."

(An excerpt from the Saga of Gartzogi Bristle-beard, Gartzogi Togas VII)

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I see Arnold Schwarzenneger in the title role of what will undoubtly become a success movie. Only him can play so many thing in so few time.

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"Arnold Schwarzenneger will appear as the title roles in two major blockbuster historical epics this month: Gartzogi Bristle-beard and Gandhi."

Where do I sign up to be Spain's poet laureate, bard, saga-master, and ballad-writer?

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HistoryGuy, your next epic should be about the evil Eustogkaro I (180-192), the third son of Togatxall I, who arranged for a hunting accident for his little nephew Togatxall II, waited for his brother Eneretogo IV to die (so as not to seem suspicious), then poisoned his other little nephew Eneretogo V, and then was poisoned in his turn by his son Cistogon I who just got tired of waiting for the old man to die.

It explains why Eustogkaro is not a popular name.

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quote: Originally posted by History Guy "Brodgar Worm-whistle broke away, seized with panic, horror-striken, dumb-founded, terrorized, and the axe came down, shattering bone-skull..." (An excerpt from the Saga of Gartzogi Bristle-beard, Gartzogi Togas VII)

And then there was the curse that Brodgar Worm-whistle’s wife put on the House of Togas, that brother should succeed brother and reigns should be short and accidents and deaths should happen forever. But an Egyptian priest in the scouting party used mysterious Egyptian magic to lift the curse in the reign of Decedretego IV.

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Senor Pikesfan, I have begun the work. There will be eight parts, and the later parts will be pretty violent, because of the stuff with Enerotogo getting in the hunting accident (four arrows, I think it was) and the Hastragal Gisgar and Petronius stuff (stabbed alot...). I am doing them in the fashion and style of the Nordic sagas. Hope you appreciate them.

Hernan de History Guy Calamari the Younger
Bard of Madrid

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I love it! Where do you find the time? However, future historians are going to say that Eustogkaro I was just misunderstood and the saga is unreliable as it doesn’t fit the chronology


Togatxall I
126-140
|------------------------|--------------------------|
Antogasso I Eneretogo IV Eustogkaro I
140-165 169-180 180-192
| | |
Togatxall II Eneretogo V Cistogon I
165-169 180 192-226


... which now that I look at it seems rather unlikely as Eustogkaro Horseface would be quite old when he at last took the throne...

but let’s see how the saga turns out. Maybe I can shorten the reign of Eneretogo IV and give more years to Eustogkaro I. Or just think of it as a saga which is not supposed to be a serious history.

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Oh bother my family tree doesn't display right

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If anything, have the reign of Eustogkaro shortened. He doesn't get the throne until nearly the end of the saga. However, I sort of want to make him have a Richard III type feel.

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Can you guys post some of this in the main forum..... it will make our diplomicy OH so much better. I can see it now....... all those GS persons will go nutz.

GK

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The poets as well as the tales? Imagine: we have written literature before we have even discovered writing! Not very roleplay but it doesn't matter i think. I'm going to pick out a king to make a song about. Brave heroic deeds it should be. A little like the Gilgalad-song of middle-earth.

Aidun Cian
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Historian
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What? The Saga? I will when it's done, if you like. How's the new part? Tomorrow...more death!!

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I am going to have to somehow revise my algorithm and increase the number of chances a new name has to come up. Three Gartzogis in a row followed by two more is a bit much. All these Cistogons are getting boring too.