16-12-2002 20:59									#61
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I'll believe that when I see it

	16-12-2002 21:29									#62
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To Clegg. I wondered why you had 23 points. At least no one will bother with you if you're in the middle of a huge jungle.

	16-12-2002 22:25									#63
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3850 BC to Egyptians.

I think the reason some folks only have 23 points is because they moved their settler on the first turn instead of building a city. If I remember the formula for score correctly, population and controlled territory would be the largest factor in the very early game folowed by technology.

Conqueror, sounds like you'll have some busy workers on your hands.

I can't tell too much about my start position yet since I am still waiting for a unit that I can use to explore I guess early game interest is one of the advantages of the expansionist trait in PBEM games, huh? It won't be long now though...

Last edited by Clegg on 16-12-2002 at 22:33

	16-12-2002 23:54									#64
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I doubt if 23 rather than 30 points will make much difference once we get going !

	17-12-2002 00:05									#65
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sent

Expansionist is probably a stronger trait in human games, particularly ones without AI civs.

	17-12-2002 00:19									#66
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NEWSWIRE: speeding game seen approaching celts

	17-12-2002 01:20									#67
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!@$#% I'm at work argh!!!

I'll be home in about 2 hours!!!!

	17-12-2002 04:54									#68
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turn to ottomans

I haven't stored any production or food for the last 2 turns even though I clearly have an excess of both !!!! Is this a bug ?

	17-12-2002 13:06									#69
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Turn to Arabs

My city screen looked correct. Is the time remaining on your first build correct?

	17-12-2002 15:32									#70
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Yes it says - turn to build unit 5 - turns to new population 10 - but each turn - its still the same and there's no food or production stored !

	17-12-2002 17:33									#71
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turn to SirOsis of Babylon

	17-12-2002 17:35									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Tom Red Yes it says - turn to build unit 5 - turns to new population 10 - but each turn - its still the same and there's no food or production stored !

Tom, next turn try adjusting labourers working to different tiles than what they are working on now and see if it helps.

	17-12-2002 20:59									#73
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Turn sent. Said the monarch thing again. Maybe it remembers the previous difficulty?

	17-12-2002 21:09									#74
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I've found a european patch now - lets see if it helps.

	17-12-2002 22:27									#75
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3800 BC to Egyptions.

	17-12-2002 22:43									#76
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quote: Originally posted by SirOsis Turn sent. Said the monarch thing again. Maybe it remembers the previous difficulty?

Then it should have been Emperor, because i was just playing the AU 202 on Emperor level ? Or do you mean your previous level - hm that may be if you are loading PBEM games from the main menu's "Load game" option.

Try using this MP loading method that we had to use in one private PBEM game when almost nothing worked correctly.
I have used it ever since in PBEM games and have had much less problems.

Launch PTW
Select Multiplayer
Set Location to Local.

Click on Host
Under Game Type, select Play By EMail
Under Game Mode, select Load Game
Load the current save
Click on Launch

Do your turn
Click on the End Turn Oval
Save the Game

/edit: Tom Red, you try loading your game this way too, maybe it'll help to the food problem. Loading a PBEM game from main menu can cause most bizarre bugs.

	17-12-2002 22:56									#77
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sent

	17-12-2002 23:11									#78
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I'll look more closely at my game....but I don't seem to have any problems....

Are you all using the most up to date patch? There is a documented/unfixed bug that sets all regent difficulties to Monarch in MP mode.

	17-12-2002 23:21									#79
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I just load game from the main screen. Sometimes it says Monarch difficulty, other times it says Regent. Everything else is working fine as far as I know. I am using 1.14.

	18-12-2002 10:05									#80
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turn to celts

	18-12-2002 21:11									#81
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Turn was sent a few hours ago to the Persians

	18-12-2002 23:27									#82
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turn to ottomans.

I found a european patch AND loaded the game as you advised - and it worked this time - but I've wasted very valuable turns at the begining of the game !!!

Thanks for the advice.

	19-12-2002 05:18									#83
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turn to Arabs (3800BC)

	19-12-2002 05:34									#84
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to SirOsis

	19-12-2002 06:28									#85
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To Clegg 3750BC

	19-12-2002 06:57									#86
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3750 BC to Egyptians

	19-12-2002 20:10									#87
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Well, at least you're Industrious and should recover in time from early blunders/mishaps.

Also, early score is not as important as it will be in the Middle ages.

	19-12-2002 21:14									#88
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I have it on good authority that this is what Conqueror calls Jungle.

	19-12-2002 21:21									#89
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3750 bc sent to celts

	21-12-2002 00:15									#90
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where's the turn right now?