03-12-2002 23:34									#1
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Veni, Vedi, Vici turn order and emails

1. SirOsis - Babylonians sirosis@hotmail.com
2. Clegg - Greeks jbirdsall at comcast dot net
3. ormuzd - Egyptians nebucadnez2ar at yahoo com
4. Tiberius - Scandinavians tibi.k(at)xnet(dot)ro
5. CerberusIV - Celts CerberusIVciv3 at aol.com
6. Tom Red - Persians dermot dot kehoe at blueyonder dot co dot uk
7. redstar1 - Ottomans david.archibald AT btinternet.com
8. Conqueror - Arabs CONQUEROR at MBNET dot FI




I'd like to start an 8 player game on a Large map. This game is going to take quite awhile so please consider this when signing up. I would like it to go fast in the beginning. I hope for 2 turns a day. With 8 people this will not be easy but if we coordinate schedules I think it is possible.

Everything will be random with the exception of the map size and the civ you want to play. I am currently running 1.14.

I'll be the Babylonians.

Last edited by SirOsis on 09-04-2003 at 10:27

	04-12-2002 00:33									#2
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Count me in for the long haul, random Civ. I'll PM you my e-mail address to avoid the infamous spam bots.

In case you want to schedule a kickoff session at the beginning via IM, I'm in MST (GMT-7). Available most weekends.

Last edited by Clegg on 04-12-2002 at 01:57

	04-12-2002 17:43									#3
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I would like to play although the map size is daunting. Dr Fell recommends a double-move option if we use accelerated production.

	04-12-2002 18:16									#4
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Double move option?

	04-12-2002 18:36									#5
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I guess the Eli's question means I misinterpreted something Dr Fell said in the strat forum

"Adding a doubled moves option might have helped. The upgrade costs are halved, btw, as they're based on the number of shields difference between the old and new unit."

I was complaining on a thread in the strategy forum that accelerated production unbalanced the game.

On rereading his reply to my whining, I now see that he might have been directing the doubled moves comment at Firaxis, suggesting it as a way to fix the problem, rather than telling me that such an option already existed. Too bad, his idea is good.

	04-12-2002 21:24									#6
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I realize the map size is daunting. I wanted it that way. I don't want accelerated production since I want my civ3 pure.

Since the map is large I recognize this will take a signigificant amount of time but I think it will be worth it. If we get dedicated players that can take turns fast in the beginning it shouldn't be too bad.

	04-12-2002 21:26									#7
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So far we have myself, jshelr, and Clegg. Only 5 more to go.

	04-12-2002 22:56									#8
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Count me in! I'll PM you my info, plus, I was in a PBEM not long ago...then suddenly no more turn files??? I am crossing my fingers this time

I want to shoot for at least one turn per day.

	04-12-2002 23:06									#9
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BTW, Egypt would be my preferred civ if that's ok.

	04-12-2002 23:10									#10
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BTW, I am EST, and mornings and night are best for turn generation.

	04-12-2002 23:36									#11
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Here is where we stand:

SirOsis - Babylonians - PST
Clegg - Random - MST
jshelr - Egyptians - EST
WarriorPoet - Celts - EST

I usually take my turns around 8am and 6pm.

We're halfway there.

	05-12-2002 00:07									#12
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I have a 5.45am to 7am shift doing a review of overnight trading activity. Then, I have about 45 minutes for breakfast and to put a tie on. I could do a turn then. Also, I get off early, about 3pm. So I could do a turn before most people in the States but after those in Europe. In other words, pretend I'm in Bermuda.

	05-12-2002 01:02									#13
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I'd like to be vikings. I'm in EST but prefer a 1am turn. I am willing to also do a second turn any other time (except 7am-4pm SOME weekdays).

so you might want to pretend I'm somewhere floating aorund in the pacific ocean

will repeat this message in pm with e-mail address.

	05-12-2002 01:22									#14
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I'm usually able to fit a turn in at most times of the day with a quick break from work

However, best times are early morning before 6 am, lunch time ~12 pm, or evening 7 pm - 10 pm. All times MST.

Looking forward to a good game with some dedicated folks. Had a similar experience to Warrior Poets with games falling apart over time. I also like the idea of a "pure" civ3 game (no accelerated production, etc), and getting a turn or more per day if possible.

	05-12-2002 02:17									#15
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So that's one more.

SirOsis - Babylonians - PST
Clegg - Random - MST
jshelr - Egyptians - EST
WarriorPoet - Celts - EST
Ananias - Scandanavians - EST

Once we get the other 3 players we can work on the schedule we think would work best. This might mean that someone other than myself sets up the game, which is fine by me.

	05-12-2002 02:27									#16
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Ok. I am going to put the times for turns in GMT so we have a common reference. Damn Greenwich!

SirOsis - 16:00 and 02:00
Clegg - before 13:00, 19:00, 02:00 - 05:00
jshelr - 12:00 and 20:00
WarriorPoet - mornings 12:00(?), evening 23:00(?)
Ananias - 06:00, before 12:00, after 21:00

I think I got the times right. Just check yours to make sure.

	06-12-2002 01:01									#17
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I'm in.

I'd like to play as the Arabs.

/edit: email has changed, new one to use is conqueror at mbnet dot fi

Last edited by Conqueror on 04-02-2003 at 01:12

	06-12-2002 01:41									#18
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Excellent another one. Everything is random except the map and civ.

2 more to go...

	07-12-2002 00:03									#19
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Seems to be stalling out here. If we don't get another 2 by Tuesday lets go with 6. I'm hoping for an 8 player game though.

	07-12-2002 19:34									#20
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Count me in - Randon Civ.

	07-12-2002 20:05									#21
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I'll play.

I am a CTP PBEM vet of over a dozen games, so I know the time investment needed.

Civ: Ottomans
Home TZ: CST(US)
Turns: weekdays 00:00 - 05:00, 11:00-13:00 GMT
weekends 12:00-05:00 GMT

	08-12-2002 02:11									#22
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Great. We have our 8. Here is the list:

SirOsis - Babylonians
Clegg - Random
jshelr - Egyptians
WarriorPoet - Celts
Ananias - Scandanavians
Conqueror - Arabs
Tom Red - Random
Swissy - Ottomans

I'm not able to start the game until Tuesday so if there are any changes let me know. We could also decide on a turn order.

	08-12-2002 17:55									#23
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I would recomend an order ranked by those closest to your own timezone, then at least they should be awake when you start the game...things might run a little smoother.

	09-12-2002 01:50									#24
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This will be the turn order unless there are objections. Also please PM the person you will be recieving the turn from with your email address or post it here. My email is sirosis@hotmail.com

Please put VVV in the subject. I will filter it this way.
2 more days...

SirOsis - Babylonians
Clegg - Random
Ananias - Scandanavians
jshelr - Egyptians
WarriorPoet - Celts
Tom Red - Random
Swissy - Ottomans
Conqueror - Arabs

	09-12-2002 12:27									#25
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SirOsis,

since you already have everyone's addresses, would you consider PMing everyone with a complete list in order to help facilitate "backchannel" communication?

	09-12-2002 14:19									#26
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Email list sent out.

Red Tom, I need your email.

	09-12-2002 15:07									#27
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since we're not starting till tuesday, could you say what time of day (GMT) you'll send the game out? we might be able to have a very quick start if we know exactly when the first turn will head our way.


also, unless anyone has a problem with this, I'd like to receive from jshelr (we're both EST). I'm receiving from him in another game and I think keeping things flowing in the same direction would keep it less confusing for me.

Last edited by Ananias on 09-12-2002 at 15:34

	09-12-2002 18:39									#28
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quote: Originally posted by SirOsis Please put VVV in the subject. I will filter it this way.

Yes, when we start the game, then whoever sends anything regarding to the game (turns, trade proposals) to me ( conqueror123@suomi24.fi ) please please put the words PBEM or VVV, in the subject so my e-mail will not filter it as spam.

I'd prefer something like "PBEM VVV 4000 bc" in the subject - believe me, it REALLY helps when you get a lot of email, that the subjects are clear and not something like "Yo man - your turnz!"

(this has happened more then once then you wonder "hmm what is that" or it gets filtered away - bad in both cases)

	09-12-2002 22:09									#29
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Updated turn order:

SirOsis - Babylonians
Clegg - Random
jshelr - Egyptians
Ananias - Scandanavians
WarriorPoet - Celts
Tom Red - Random
Swissy - Ottomans
Conqueror - Arabs

The turn will go out around 16:00 GMT on Tuesday.

	09-12-2002 22:16									#30
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I'll be ready for the first turn tomorrow, will plan to play at 17:00 GMT. Crossing my fingers for a good start location


SirOsis, I didn't get the PM with all the e-mail addresses, can you please resend?