05-12-2002 11:38									#1
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FOREIGN RELATIONS REPORT - START OF 1170 A.D.

SUMMARY - ROME
ROMAN TREASURY: 0 L, ??? LPT
ROME HAS: Ivory, WM
WE HAVE: WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH ROME:
We sell them Incense for 10 LPT (Deal is being left to ride)
We sell them Dyes for 24 LPT (Renegotiation in 6 turns - 1230 A.D.)
They pay us 3 LPT for Peace (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - GREECE
GREEK TREASURY: 23 L, 0 LPT
GREECE HAS: Ivory, WM
WE HAVE: Industrialization, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH GREECE:
They give us 2 LPT (ends in 1 turn - 1180 A.D.)
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)
We sell them Spices, Dyes, and Incense for 5 LPT (Renegotiation in 14 turns - 1290 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - AZTECS
AZTEC TREASURY: 0 L + 0 LPT
AZTECS HAVE: WM
WE HAVE: Steam Power, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH AZTECS:
We give them Dyes (ends in 1 turn - 1180 A.D.)
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - GERMANY
GERMAN TREASURY: 315 L + ??? LPT
GERMANS HAVE: WM
WE HAVE: WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH GERMANY:
We sell them Spices for 14 LPT (Renegotiation NOW - letting it ride)
We sell them Dyes and Incense for 26 LPT (Renegotiation in 5 turns - 1220 A.D.)
They pay us 6 LPT for Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - RUSSIA
RUSSIAN TREASURY: 0 L + 0 LPT
RUSSIA HAS: WM
WE HAVE: Steam Power, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH RUSSIA:
We sell them Saltpeter for 8 LPT (Renegotiation in 7 turns - 1240 A.D.)
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - BABYLON
BABYLONIAN TREASURY: 12 L + 16 LPT
BABYLON HAS: WM
WE HAVE: Saltpeter, Steam Power, Medicine, Communism, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH BABYLON:
They give us 7 LPT for Peace (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)
We sell them Wines for 2 LPT (Renegotiation in 12 turns - 1290 A.D.?)
We sell them Iron for 12 LPT (Renegotiation in 16 turns - 1330 A.D.?)
We sell them Dyes for 4 LPT (Renegotiation in 19 turns - 1360 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - PERSIA
PERSIAN TREASURY: 0 L + 0 LPT
PERSIA HAS: WM
WE HAVE: Iron, Dyes, Magnetism, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH PERSIA:
We sell them Saltpeter for 18 LPT (Renegotiation in 5 turns - 1220 A.D.)
They give us 4 LPT (ends in 7 turns - 1240 A.D.)
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - INDIA
INDIAN TREASURY: 0 L + ??? LPT
INDIA HAS: Furs, WM
WE HAVE: WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH INDIA:
We sell them Dyes for 16 LPT (Renegotiation in 7 turns - 1240 A.D.)
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - JAPAN
JAPANESE TREASURY: 0 L + ??? LPT
JAPAN HAS: WM
WE HAVE: WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH JAPAN:
We sell them Dyes for Silks (Renegotiation in 3 turns - 1200 A.D.)
They give us 1 LPT (ends in 4 turns - 1210 A.D.)
They give us 1 LPT for Peace (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)
We sell them Coal for 28 LPT (Renegotiation in 14 turns - 1310 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - IROQUOIS
IROQUIOS TREASURY: 5 L + 0 LPT
IROQUIOS HAVE: WM
WE HAVE: Steam Power, Medicine, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH IROQUIOS:
They give us 8 LPT for Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)
They give us 8 LPT (ends in 19 turns - 1360 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - ENGLAND
ENGLISH TREASURY: 19 L + 14 LPT
ENGLAND HAS: WM
WE HAVE: Industrialization, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH ENGLAND:
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 11 turns - 1280 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - CHINA
CHINESE TREASURY: 0 L + 0 LPT
CHINA HAS: WM
WE HAVE: (Dyes), Magnetism, Military Tradition, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH CHINA:
Peace Treaty (Renegotiation in 10 turns - 1270 A.D.?)

SUMMARY - ZULULAND
ZULU TREASURY: 13 L + 0 LPT
ZULULAND HAS: Peace Treaty, (Gems), WM
WE HAVE: Peace Treaty, (Dyes), Industrialization, WM
ACTIVE DEALS WITH ZULULAND:
WE ARE AT WAR

NOTE: Items in bold are those scheduled to be renegotiated or to end during the coming turnchat (1170-1220 A.D.)

	05-12-2002 11:38									#2
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COMMODITIES REPORT - 1170 A.D.

HORSES
We have 4
Exporting NONE
3 extra
DEMAND: ---

IRON
We have 4
Exporting 1 to Babylon (12 LPT - expires in 16 turns)
2 extra
DEMAND: Persia

SALTPETER
We have 4
Exporting 1 to Russia (8 LPT - expires in 7 turns)
Exporting 1 to Persia (18 LPT - expires in 5 turns)
1 extra
DEMAND: Babylon

COAL
We have 5
Exporting 1 to Japan (28 LPT - expires in 14 turns)
3 extra
DEMAND: ---

WINE
We have 2
Exporting 1 to Babylon (2 LPT - expires in 12 turns)
0 extra
DEMAND: ---

DYES
We have 10
Exporting 1 to Rome (24 LPT - expires in 6 turns)
Exporting 1 to Greece (given for tech - expires in 14 turns)
Exporting 1 to Aztecs (given for tech - expires in 1 turn)
Exporting 1 to Germany (26 LPT package deal with Incense - expires in 5 turns)
Exporting 1 to Babylon (4 LPT - expires in 19 turns)
Exporting 1 to India (16 LPT - expires in 7 turns)
Exporting 1 to Japan (Silks - expires in 3 turns)
2 extra
DEMAND: Persia

INCENSE
We have 4
Exporting 1 to Rome (10 LPT - being left to ride)
Exporting 1 to Greece (given for tech - expires in 14 turns)
Exporting 1 to Germany (26 LPT package deal with Dyes - expires in 5 turns)
0 extra
DEMAND: Persia, Iroquois

SPICES
We have 3
Exporting 1 to Greece (given for tech - expires in 14 turns)
Exporting 1 to Germany (14 LPT - being left to ride)
0 extra
DEMAND: Russia, Babylon, Persia

SILKS
We have 0
Importing 1 from Japan (? extra)

IVORY
We have 0
SOURCES: Rome (1 extra), Greece (2 extra)

FURS
We have 0
SOURCES: India (2 extra)

GEMS
We have 0
SOURCES: Zululand (? extra)

	05-12-2002 17:34									#3
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Great report, Arnelos.
Can we force peace with Zulu's and them get the gems from they? I mean, after sink one or two of their galleys...
Maybe we should sell industrialization to India, and get furs. I'm saying this because with more happiness, our production is better, or am I wrong?

	05-12-2002 19:25									#4
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We can't buy gems from the Zulu right now because they signed a trade embargo against us.

	05-12-2002 21:02									#5
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We need to get a counter embargo against Zulu and China.

	05-12-2002 23:11									#6
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn We need to get a counter embargo against Zulu and China.

Requires a Senate Bill. If you guys want to start one, you have until Sunday to get it passed (Sunday is when we're holding the next chat).

	05-12-2002 23:58									#7
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I don't agree with a counter Embargo, atleast against the Zulu. It will mean the we will have a full 20 turns before we can buy Gems from them again, whereas, it's already been about 3 turns (I can't remember when it was enacted) in the current Embargo and should be finished about the time that we get done with Germany (or when we will really need it, if the War Bogs down).

Why should we have to wait longer?

E_T

	06-12-2002 01:32									#8
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We should not renegotiate any lux deals with germany if we will be delaring war in 10-11 turns.

We need to cancel the riding trade deals prior to entering ta war with them so that we save our reputation.

Mss

	06-12-2002 02:32									#9
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I second E_T on the embargo issue. We all want our gems back as soon as possible.

	06-12-2002 03:54									#10
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quote: Originally posted by ManicStarSeed We should not renegotiate any lux deals with germany if we will be delaring war in 10-11 turns. We need to cancel the riding trade deals prior to entering ta war with them so that we save our reputation. Mss

This is already in the plan. All current deals that come up for renegotiation are ordered to be left to ride (see my orders in the orders thread). Before we actually declare war, all deals which are still riding will be cancelled (thus with no reputation loss).

	06-12-2002 10:02									#11
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We are evil... Everyone who crossed our way has been destroyed. And we will do the same with all the others, soon or later.
But the AI only knows that our reputation is immaculate.
I really love this game!
Btw, it's a good plan.