06-12-2002 08:01									#1
	Me, Kiwi (New Zealander) now has PTW! Get a bigger avatar today!

PTW arrived in my mail today from GP Store NZ. Just wondered if any other kiwis have it yet. You have to order it online here as it won't appear in shops generally until mid-January due to its out-of-the-box bugginess which means it does not meet consumer and/or legal standards (false advertising). Also, it is still shown on the website as "Coming soon" but that may be deliberate me thinks!

	06-12-2002 14:59									#2
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Congrats.

	07-12-2002 01:28									#3
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Congrats from me too.

You have the US version, I presume? I'm waiting till my Electronics Boutique stocks PTW (hopefully a pre-patched version, UK or US.)

BTW, how much did it cost you (Kiwi $)?

	07-12-2002 03:50									#4
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$64 but this included freight. Normally retail is $59. My local shop gives me a 10% discount so about $54 in normal circumstances but I would have to wait to mid-January for it! The extra 10 bucks is worth it to get it now! And it's the U.S. version. I made a point of asking them before ordering it.

	07-12-2002 06:44									#5
	Re: Me, Kiwi (New Zealander) now has PTW! Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by The Rusty Gamer You have to order it online here as it won't appear in shops generally until mid-January due to its out-of-the-box bugginess which means it does not meet consumer and/or legal standards (false advertising).

Of course when I mentioned the game was in breach of consumer laws in Australia the fanboys scoffed.

Looks like Infogames took legal advice.

	07-12-2002 07:49									#6
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1. Could someone explain to me why it is in breach of consumer laws?
2. Am I going to have to wait till January to get it?
3. What is the difference between the US and AU/NZ version?
4. Does that mean I can just order the US version now insted of waiting for it to come out in Australia?
5. Is it just me, or is anyone else as confused as I am?

	07-12-2002 07:53									#7
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1. Dunno, but in NZ, there are some pretty vocal 'consumer-rights' advocates
2. Probably.
3. There is no AU/NZ version-- usually it's the UK version (probably taking cue from Sony Playstation.) The reason why its significant is because the UK version is/was delayed and probably is pre-patched.
4. Yes
5. I'm just as confused

	07-12-2002 08:05									#8
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You cannot knowingly sell a defective product into the Australian market. It breaches the Trade Practices Act.

PTW is clearly defective - the CD does not deliver what is stated on the box. Big no, no, in most Western countries.

	07-12-2002 08:55									#9
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quote: Big no, no, in most Western countries.

Hehe... if someone reads this out of context, it can sound like as if we were speaking of Infrogrames as if it was some 3rd-world-slave-labour-utilising company

	07-12-2002 09:29									#10
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For anyone in NZ, all you have to do is go to the link mentioned in my first post and order it. Ignore the fact that it says "Coming soon". They have it in stock, they're just not advertising it.

And let me reemphasise, it is the U.S. version. I checked with the store first. And I applied the 1.14f patch and it works just fine.

	07-12-2002 13:40									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse You cannot knowingly sell a defective product into the Australian market. It breaches the Trade Practices Act. PTW is clearly defective - the CD does not deliver what is stated on the box. Big no, no, in most Western countries.

Yeah right. How do you stay employed?

	08-12-2002 02:17									#12
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PTW arrived in my mail today from GP Store NZ. Just wondered if any other kiwis have it yet

It is about time! I'll head out and get it today.

Sean.

	08-12-2002 03:50									#13
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Got it! Just downloading the patch now. Some small difficulties with the US version...but it should be all right.

I hope it is as good as it sounds!

Sean.

	08-12-2002 04:30									#14
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Yeah right. How do you stay employed?

You must be so embarrassed to be blown out of the water like this

	08-12-2002 06:49									#15
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Horsie, don't offer to blow me. You're not my sort.

	08-12-2002 07:00									#16
	Got spare money?

You're dead in the water now fanboy

	08-12-2002 07:06									#17
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

In your fevered mind.