08-12-2002 13:32									#1
	Any europeans want to play a diplo game this afternoon? (08-12-2002) Support Apolyton

let's say we start 14:00 CET ? (13:00 GMT)

	08-12-2002 17:48									#2
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What's a diplo game???

	08-12-2002 18:23									#3
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A long large game with much players on a large world in multiple sessions.
Because the world is that big it's important to have allies, and use diplomacy rather than pure force to survive.

If you're a warmonger and kick the hell out of your neighbours you might see an alliance of 7 players against you (like Iraque right now )

those games are cool and the best!
it's civilization as it's meant to be!

	08-12-2002 20:19									#4
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I'm in Europe and interested in good long games. I'm sick of those random people from Gamespy who leave without any warning just because they lost a city or even failed to take one. I'm usually available during evenings and weekends, and will have plenty of time during the Christmas holidays. However, I doubt we'll manage to find enough people right now to start today
What do you have in mind for the game settings and amount of human players? Right now I've never succeeded in hosting or joining a game with more than 3 human players And what about the turns mode? I like sim.turns, it should be OK if we don't have too much wars. Turnbased is ok too, but I don't like turnless, Civ is not a RTS

	08-12-2002 21:33									#5
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Let's try to find more people first, and than try to find good play-dates.

I prefer turn-based over simultaniously. Turnless is no good indeed.

I think it's possible to play with 6-8 people, but only if the ping is low. With people from europe (western?) that must be possible.

	09-12-2002 21:02									#6
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more europeans interested?

	09-12-2002 22:25									#7
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I sure am. Count me in. Did not get a chance to play over the Internet yet and am looking forward to a good game. But...... do you really expect to be able to play with many players on a large world?

From what I have read about it sofar, this is impossible.

	09-12-2002 23:27									#8
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Yesterday, I've had a nice game with 5 players for 1 hour (then some quitted, but I don't think it was connection related). The matchmaking had been made through DirectIP. Some players were in the US and some in Europe. If everybody is in Europe, it should be possible to have even more players.

	10-12-2002 03:14									#9
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If we focus on low-ping, it must be possible.
And of course we can join through IP if things fail.
It's not so bad if there's a crash or two.

Pherhaps we should install ICQ for chatting,
since civ3 chat fairly doesn't work, and chatting is very
important in a diplomacy game.

	10-12-2002 03:25									#10
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Do you have experience with the voice chat in PTW. That would be a nice possibility but I did not get it to work yet.

	10-12-2002 04:11									#11
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I just come back from a sim.turns 3 players game with 2 German guys... Not a single lag, it was brilliant (except that they were always chatting in German and I didn't understand anything... maybe they were plotting some evil plan against me ). Matchmaking worked through Gamespy.
I agree about ICQ for chatting if a patch doesn't fix the text-wrap thing quickly. I haven't got the voice chat thing to work too... I fear it may slow down the connexions anyway.

	10-12-2002 04:18									#12
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I kind of hoped to be able to play you today, Crousto. I pm'ed you about it but probably was to late. Pity. Better next time, I hope.

	10-12-2002 15:02									#13
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i'd love to play! but i only just got PTW. how do i join the muliplayer game at 14:00?

	10-12-2002 15:16									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Emma i'd love to play! but i only just got PTW. how do i join the muliplayer game at 14:00?

In the first post, CyberShy talked about 14:00 last weekend, but not enough players were present at this time. Now that we are 4, maybe we could start planning something for this weekend or friday evening, and more players will join until then.
I'm free this weekend and most evenings.

	10-12-2002 15:27									#15
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Sunday will be a possibility for me.
around 14:00, but I have to go around 16:30 again...

	10-12-2002 16:43									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Emma i'd love to play! but i only just got PTW. how do i join the muliplayer game at 14:00?

Emma, I would love to play this afternoon also. Reply on the e-mail or PM me if you still are too. Anyone else interested?

	10-12-2002 16:51									#17
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy Sunday will be a possibility for me. around 14:00, but I have to go around 16:30 again...

Let us start at 14.30 (GMT+1) and I will join. Looking forward to it.

	13-12-2002 16:28									#18
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I might join too, but I'll have to fix some firewall issues first. I think I can do this tomorrow (Saturday).

	14-12-2002 19:36									#19
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Is this game still on? Will we start at 14.30 as proposed?

Where do we meet. Gamespy? Or will someone send mails around?

	14-12-2002 20:48									#20
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It's still OK for me, tomorrow at 14h30. Who will host? I have a fairly recent computer (Ath1700, 256Mb RAM) so I don't mind doing it. We could meet at Gamespy first (we'll need a password then), or try DirectIP if it doesn't work.

	14-12-2002 22:20									#21
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OK, Let's meet at Gamespy and see from there.

	14-12-2002 23:25									#22
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I won't signup at GameSpy. They want to know too many personal information. I don't trust them.

Have a good game.

	14-12-2002 23:27									#23
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He, Sir Ralph signup? Where are you talking about? I did not have to answer any questions at all.

Did your tests succeed?

	14-12-2002 23:29									#24
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So what did you mean by "get a password" then?

The test is in 2-3 hours, when nye comes.

	14-12-2002 23:33									#25
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I suppose Crousto meant "a password for the game". I never used a password or had to answer questions for gamespy. So, I hope your tests with nye succeed and you will join us tomorrow.

Edit: to my knowledge there is no other way then go to gamespy. Even if using directIP you first have to go there and enter the IP address. Or I am missing something here? Now I come to think about it I never saw the word gamespy anywhere nor add's for that matter. So...... ???

Anyway Direct IP would be nice to try. I am all for it.

	14-12-2002 23:37									#26
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I think for a direct IP game we can also meet in the Poly chatroom. One (the host) tells his IP address, and all others choose "Direct IP connect" from the MP menu. That should do it.

	14-12-2002 23:47									#27
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That is my point. When you select multiplayer you get to gamespy. Before you can even hit "Direct IP".

By the way, I prefer not to gather in the Apolyton chatroom. It wants me to install things which I prefer not to. MSN, ICQ, plain e-mail is all ok with me.

	14-12-2002 23:50									#28
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MSN and ICQ are things I prefer not to install. They are pure spam and spyware services.

	15-12-2002 00:10									#29
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Fair enough

	15-12-2002 00:21									#30
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I think that when you create a game with 'location' set to Internet, it's a Gamespy game. You don't have to signup at their website or anything, but anyone in Gamespy or in the lobby can see your game, so there will be people we've never heard of who'll try to join, that's why I suggested to use a password. But if the host create the game with location set to 'local' in the multiplayer screen, the game will not be 'sent' to the Gamespy server, so it can only be accessed through DirectIP.