09-12-2002 04:45									#1
	Civ2 PBEM Diplomacy - Beta 2.0 Annoucement! Increase the size of your Attachments

Hi all!

Civ2 PBEM Diplomacy is an utility to do diplomacy in PBEMs directly between players. It's a team-work: Markus Kraus von Güntner (aka Galvatron) and Vincent Frachebourg (aka Cyrion) are the translators, and I (Javier Muñoz) am the programmer.

Well, I'm very, very busy with my university degree rigth now, but I had managed to do some serious work on the new version version. In fact, on Tuesday or Wenesday I hope to launch the BETA

New features the betta will add [version 1 includes gold/tech exchange and treaties like Peace, Cease-Fire and alliance]:

- Map interchanges:
*** Terrain maps (only the terrain, not the units or the cities)
*** Cities maps (cities+terrain)
*** Units maps (units+terrain)
*** Map about other civ (For example: you can ask German for French map in order to launch an attack against France with much more knowlegde)

- Cities interchanges

- After exchanging a tech that involves governments, you can launch a revolution!

- Bug about scientific research corrected.

- Betters and mode-detailed error messages

But, it will NOT include

- Units exchange: I have serious doubts about how to do an interface that includes units, and also I don't know how fair it is (It is very cheats-prone!)

So, I ask you for help.

- Betatesters: I need one or two betatesters. I ask you for load some scens, play a few turn and simulate a diplomatic exchange (playing the role of both the sender and the reciever).

- Translator: If you want to translate the utility to a new language (Currently I support French, Italian, German, English and Spanish), I'll be more than happy.

- Manual-checker: I will write a new manual. I'm very concerned with the manual of the older version. I now that my english is not clear, and the manual was, well, a little mess. I will write a RTF manual, but if someone with a good level of English would want to read it (or even write it), I will be happy.

Thank you in advance.

	09-12-2002 05:34									#2
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I can correct the manual, but I won't volunteer to write it since I do not know the utility. If any test games come up, count me in.

	09-12-2002 05:36									#3
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Thank you, El leon. I'm thinking on start a good PBEM, probably: Age of War or Colonies. I will tell you if the PBEM is started.

	11-12-2002 02:49									#4
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Hi guys!

There is the BETA! The ZIP is password-protected. I had sent the password via PM to all people that want to be a betatester. It works like the old version, but with a lot more options.

* Know bugs: Only English and Spanish language are working. In a few days I hope there will be more languages

* Examples of test that I've done

1) In John Ellies' Colonies III
In this scen, I had tested: map exchanges (Spanish map to United Provinces, United Provinces map about Iroquis to Spain, and so on), tech exchange (for example, Protestantism to Spain. Very ironic ), money exchange, teatries (French and English alliance!) and so on.

2) In Exile's Age of War

In this scen I have tested revolutions. When German recieved Democracy from England, they could launch a revolution and, after a few turns, change their governement to Democracy!

3) In Exile's Modern Age

In this scen I have tested that your scientific reserach is saved when you recieve the tech you are working on

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	11-12-2002 20:47									#5
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I suppose I can continue being a betatester.

Sorry for leaving the project, I am quite embarrassed but I think I am ready for action now.

I am quite sad because units exchange won't be included, What about I suggested you this summer? What kind of cheats do you talk about?

Congrats Yaros.

Perhaps we should open a normal scenario (as an advanced game) and then several mods.

Ask Jay for recovering the Second Pathetic War to test your utility. It was a PBEM game which had to be closed because of Fiera's leaving. It was getting very interesting.

	11-12-2002 22:25									#6
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Don't worry, my friend. Even I get off of the project for some months. University is hard

About units: the units exchange is built, but I have two problems that I don't know how to avoid:

1) How can I present the info about units on the screen? How can you select the unit you want to offer? And the unit you want to ask for? Seems very difficult. Cities, on the other hand, are easy: they have a name

2) Two players can co-use a same army, using all time the diplomacy to bring here and there the same units! Sounds strange...

BTW, PM with password sent!

	13-12-2002 02:36									#7
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Update: Dear Galvatron has updated the German/Italian translation.


Thank you, Galvatron

	13-12-2002 17:01									#8
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What I am supposed to do now Yaros, I am waiting your orders sir.

	14-12-2002 03:14									#9
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Update: Dear Vincent has updated the German/Italian translation.


Thank you, Vincent.

Here I attached the new BETA

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	14-12-2002 03:15									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Kramsib What I am supposed to do now Yaros, I am waiting your orders sir.

Well, I ask you for doing the same tests you did with older version: start a ROME scen game and do some barters

Thank you!

	14-12-2002 20:59									#11
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A new update: some bugs corrected

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	15-12-2002 00:34									#12
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I think we should start a PBEM to test your beta, perhaps we could use The Second Pathetic War PBEM which is quite advanced. (middle ages)

We only need three human players minimum.

	15-12-2002 02:12									#13
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I support Pathetic War PBEM idea

We also can start a new colonies, Age of War or Imperalism (three scens that are very diplomatic-intensive)

As you want

	15-12-2002 17:25									#14
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Manual added

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	15-12-2002 19:40									#15
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There is the last update. It solves the problems that are described here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...&threadid=39222

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	15-12-2002 19:50									#16
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I still can't run this (need more RAM before I can install OSX) How does it handle No, No techs?
Is it still possible to exchange these by misstake? (it is in online MP and can have horrible effects as the designer didn't intend for that to happen and thus assigned all kinds of obsoletion values to them).

	15-12-2002 22:35									#17
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Well, Henrik, I didn't notice that problem (No, No) before. Thank you

Rigth now, I'm checking they way to hide those techs from barters

	19-12-2002 04:25									#18
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I hope this is the last beta. I have added the feature Henrik ask for: you can not trade with tech that have prerequisites:

no, no

The no,no thing is explained here:

quote: Leon Marrick said To avoid a advance being traded or stolen (in versions after 2.4.2 only), appearing in the on-line help, or on the science minister's report, set its prerequisites to "no"s. To help avoid its being trading or demanded in earlier versions, give it an AI-value of zero.

	19-12-2002 11:04									#19
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Be sure not to include no, nil or nil, no in that category though, those two are unresearchable but tradable in the normal game, and thus should be here too.

	19-12-2002 22:02									#20
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Yes. I only disallow trade if there are two times no

	19-09-2003 00:27									#21
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I found a bug in PBEM Diplomacy tool (v 2.1): it don't increase your tech count (and your tech cost) after you receive a tech.

Yaroslav is informed, but I don't know if he can repair it fast, so temporarily I attach a program that can increase your tech count.
Choose your color, load game, look at original tech number and increase it by number of techs you received using PBEM Diplomacy tool. Save is immediate and automatic.

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	19-09-2003 02:49									#22
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Thank you, ST. I'll send you an email and correct the thing (easy) this weekend, as I'm today very tired after my trip.

I've found that the tech count doesn't affect only to the tech cost but also to the AI's attitude. Lesser the counter, better the attitude.

	19-09-2003 03:09									#23
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When you correct it, don't forget to e-mail me with the updated version

	19-09-2003 03:25									#24
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Of course, The Spanish Site is the offical place of the utility, and I'll publish it there before anywhere else