24-12-2002 01:44									#61
	Remove this text

This genre of games has a long shelf-life and I would expect it to be viable in the market for the next couple of Christmases. Overall, sales probably won't be impacted too much.

That said, getting the $ now is always better than getting the $ tomorrow.

As a gamer, my whole MOO2 multiplayer experience was ruined by a crash that seems much like the one being described for MOO3. Because of this, I'm willing to wait.

	24-12-2002 03:06									#62
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

That's the thing, this game is designed for a specific fan base at mind -- not all people love TBS, or even "space-games" check out NWN, it was obviously designed for a specific, but very loyal fan base -- the game was released, had some bugs -- but they couldn't find all the bugs with just 25 Beta testers, they found them all with 250,000 people who bought the game and said, "Hey -- this doesn't work."

Beta tests are good...but in the end, the biggest bugs will mostly be found by the people who by the game.

	27-12-2002 01:19									#63
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Agreed, and I am not intending to flame when I point out that despite the hard work of many folks posting here; there is no way that a laundry list of problems will not be found and complained about in the first 24 hours of release of MOO3.

So before too many folks continue to knock Civ3, and gosh knows that PTW deserves to be knocked, I think it is better to hope that MOO3 will be supported as well as Civ3 was after release.

	27-12-2002 22:28									#64
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

All the talk about the MP bug that I've heard of makes it sound like it hasn't been fixed yet. Meaning the testers don't have a working copy in their hands that resolves the problem. Considering that based on what was said on the official forums it takes 3? weeks to run full regression testing against a beta version does this mean we've got at least another 5 weeks (2 for the move from place 1 to place 2) ahead of us?

Or has the bug been 'probably' fixed but the testing that discovers it comes late in regression testing?

*crosses fingers for scenario #2*

	28-12-2002 00:09									#65
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

last i heard it was a late save game bug, which affected both mp and sp. is this ANOTHER bug?

	29-12-2002 05:05									#66
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

if they are waiting to solve an MP bug, then we will never see this game released