11-12-2002 21:53									#1
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hi everyone

i want to do a LONGTERM PBEM game with as many (human) players as possible
if someone knows a way to increase the maximum civ/player number for PBEM to more than 8, i would be forever grateful
i succeeded once to do so for single player mode, but it wasnt stable. 32 is absolute max i guess.

settings would be:

Gigantic Map
Donut World
20-50% land mass
100% diverse territory
Blood Lust & Pollution On
Ruins and Wonders On
rest discussable, or simply randomized

starting condition:
100 gold, 1 settler
+ random by difficulty (think extra settler)
no easy ModLite or stuff

difficulty i propose:
Deity with max.barbarians, but im open.
not the lower ones though.

did i forget anything ?

hmm mail me to mathemagician@gmx.de if you are interested

oh and only people who are sure they want to play this game in the long run and dont change their mind after a week !
and who dont let turns lie around for longer than necessary before they make them. if u get the turn and u have time for it, make it.

also, please give me as much data as possible about during which hours of the day (use GMT time please, its at the bottom of the page) you will be able to do your turns "MOST OF THE TIME"
this is to optimize playing order as good as possible.

im from germany and have a couple of german/european players so far. so it would be good to get global

we will be using 24h rule for turn completion. then you would be nexted. that is, once i (as mod) checked my mails the next time.
CC to me always of course.
i dont look into your turns, i promise !
if i next someone, i just load the file, turn off my monitor, wait some time, hit the 'n' button and send the file onward.

if you miss your turn two times in a row, i assume you are inactive and keep nexting you until you tell me otherwise.
it would be polite (as well as efficient) though to tell me in advance when you wont be able to do your turns.

i dont want to kick anyone out later on, cause he doesnt like anymore. just if you fool me and tell me several times 'im active again' and still dont do your turns, i'll kick you.

thats all
come and join

;-)

have fun
rainer

Last edited by Mathemagician on 11-12-2002 at 22:10

	12-12-2002 01:41									#2
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Sounds good. I'll play, Mathemagician. If I'm accepted into the game, I'll take the Americans if no one else has them yet. Leader's name is my handle, "quinns". Just watch that "extra settler" you give out at the beginning (is that what you meant?) ... That can make a big difference. My email address is quinn2084@yahoo.com.

	12-12-2002 01:43									#3
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i meant the extra settler the games gives out at certain difficulty settings, quinns.
sure you are accepted.
remember to send me the mail with your (trivially) email address and your availability times (roughly)

most of all it would help to know how to modify the text files to get more than 8 into an email game...

	12-12-2002 01:59									#4
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My availability is to play the turn within 24 hours. I can make that.

I think you only get an extra settler at Chieftain level, but we are playing at Deity so no one will get an extra settler.

I don't know how to go beyond 8 players -- but if this game is anything like the others around here (Eagles at War, Monkey 1, 2, etc.) this game will take a VERY long time with just 8 players, with civilizations switching players several times during the course of the game. 3 years sounds like a good estimate.

	12-12-2002 02:03									#5
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if we get more than 8 people and we find no trick, lets just make several games.

well, i took about 6 hours to browse every possible help, text and other file of CTP and it doesnt seem like you can extend to more than 8 email players.
so here are the members of the all german game.
we will start today (sunday, 15.12.) at some time.

1.) myself (Rainer of the Dornheimer)
2.) Alex (Abisilator of the Dyneteks)
3.) Hatschy (Hatschy of the Canadians)
4.) Anne/Trever (Treanne of the Germans)
5.) Oli (Ashantia of the Jünger Ashantias)
6.) Tobi (Arkon of the Neucronen)
7.) Torsten (Torsten of the HobbyGods)
8.) Sandra (Sandra of the ...?)

this leaves the following players for the international game:

1.) Shaved Ape (King Kong of the Dutch ?)
2.) berXpert (berXpert of the Mexicans ?)
3.) geoff (Geoffrey of the Australians)
4.) quinns (quinns of the Americans)
5.) checkMate (checkMate of the Native Americans ?)

plus any players from the german game who want to join (probably just me).

6.) Mathemagician

so we would still need TWO players for the international game.

7.) Lunger (Chop feng-shui of the Chinese)

one more

8.) David42 (David42 of the Greeks)

if any of you guys knows a way to go over 8 email players please tell me ASAP, otherwise i will start the german game and wait for two more for the international game and then start that one with 8 too.

Last edited by Mathemagician on 18-12-2002 at 02:48

	12-12-2002 02:04									#6
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3 years is fine if it gets interesting after two months already

	12-12-2002 02:23									#7
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as for the extra settler, quinns.
there is a chance at each level to get one.
at deity it is microscopic, but it is there.
i read that in one of the text files of the game. i think it was diffDB.txt

	12-12-2002 02:31									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician as for the extra settler, quinns. there is a chance at each level to get one. at deity it is microscopic, but it is there. i read that in one of the text files of the game. i think it was diffDB.txt

Oh... I didn't know that! Okay, that's fine if it happens then. Lucky!

	12-12-2002 02:37									#9
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Sounds interesting, but I'll pass it.
Game will last over 8 years and I'm taking bets on that.
Perhaps after 7 years I'll replace old Quinns.
Good Luck to all (and be patient)!

	12-12-2002 02:54									#10
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if i die before we finish u need a replacement, but count me in math

	12-12-2002 03:12									#11
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this would be 8 players i very much expect to participate now.
doesnt mean we cant use more in case i find that tweak to modify the game

wanna see your rabbits grow in a game with 32 players on a whatever gigantic map, quinns.

na, i guess 16 are more than enough. i just mean 8 on a gigantic map is still a little sparse.

	12-12-2002 03:32									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Kralj Matjaz Sounds interesting, but I'll pass it. Game will last over 8 years and I'm taking bets on that. Perhaps after 7 years I'll replace old Quinns. Good Luck to all (and be patient)!

I will be a "patient" in a retirement hospital by the time this finishes... You're on Kralj!

	12-12-2002 04:07									#13
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Hey Math... do you still have a free slot for a novice ?

----

If we play within 24 hours rule, a turn every 2 weeks, 27 turns a year ( I forgot holidays ) ... 187 turns in 7 years... wow Kralj is right

---

But, if you can make a good sincronization maybe 3 years will be enough

	12-12-2002 08:38									#14
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quote: Originally posted by berXpert Hey Math... do you still have a free slot for a novice ? ---- If we play within 24 hours rule, a turn every 2 weeks, 27 turns a year ( I forgot holidays ) ... 187 turns in 7 years... wow Kralj is right --- But, if you can make a good sincronization maybe 3 years will be enough

Look, BerXpert, unless you have practiced a lot, you arent that good, but maybe you will catch a break with soem Huts and somehow be competitive!

But your on right track, play some and learn some, maybe you will defeat the Great Matemagician or at least be a true "NOVICE "

	12-12-2002 15:03									#15
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iM IN MATE AND iLL BE THE ASSUES AS USEUAL. IM +10 TIME ZONE AND YOU KNOW WHEN IM AROUND USEUALLY

	12-12-2002 15:06									#16
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MAKE THAT ROMANS

	12-12-2002 16:30									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Troll But your on right track, play some and learn some, maybe you will defeat the Great Matemagician or at least be a true "NOVICE "

thanks for the "Great", troll
oh, and thanks for the "Mate"magician too

	12-12-2002 16:34									#18
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quote: Originally posted by berXpert Hey Math... do you still have a free slot for a novice ? ---- If we play within 24 hours rule, a turn every 2 weeks, 27 turns a year ( I forgot holidays ) ... 187 turns in 7 years... wow Kralj is right --- But, if you can make a good sincronization maybe 3 years will be enough

i really dont assume it will take full 24 hours for a turn.
in our all-german-speaking game we do 2-3 turns at some days. and then still we had the mentioned black sheep.

as far as i know you guys, we'll be much faster, especially with time zone synchronization

if i could just find a way to get to more than 8 players....
is there a special forum for such things ?
i would be happy if one of you could post there and ask

	12-12-2002 20:22									#19
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I'm not talking about first couple turns, but consider every turn within 7 days as fast one.
Zone synchronisation will not help later when people will drop out and in.

	12-12-2002 21:05									#20
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I think Kralj is right Mathemagician -- especially with 8 or more players. You say that you were averaging 2 to 3 turns per DAY with an 8 player game in Germany??? WOW! That's great... But, I don't think you will get that here . Look at the Eagles at War game. That started over 2 years ago and they haven't made it to turn 100 yet. Maybe if everyone is very diligent you will get 2 or 3 turns a week at best. So anyone signing up should know beforehand that this game will take about 3 years to complete.

	12-12-2002 21:11									#21
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nono im not saying we AVERAGE 2-3 turns per day.
but on the good days we had this number.
and the bad days were usually with those players not motivated to play, so i estmated we would have more good days with you guys around here.
but if all of you keep telling me otherwise..

well, anyway, as long as it takes 3 years and not 7, its fine for me

	13-12-2002 10:58									#22
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I'm in. Did it start yet?

	13-12-2002 11:00									#23
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I should have mentioned that I play
most days at 6AM CST (short) and 10PM CST (longer)


I think GMT is about 8 hours ahead of me.

	13-12-2002 21:29									#24
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welcome in, checkmate
no we didnt start yet.

im waiting for someone to tell me if you can go over 8 players in email games...
any idea ?

i guess in 2 days we should be ready to go.

oh and everyone post your desired civs.

	15-12-2002 05:46									#25
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ok Ill be the australians

	15-12-2002 12:05									#26
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C'mon people.
2 more for the english 8 person game...
(see updated post on page 1)

	15-12-2002 21:09									#27
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Awlrighty then!
I'll play ( until I'm dead or you find somebody better ).
These games are slow though, I'm in chicken run and I
get a turn every 2-3 weeks! But that doesn't mean we can't
do better!
Can I be " Chop feng-shui " of the Chinese.

	15-12-2002 21:12									#28
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Oh yeah, my email is: lunger75@hotmail.com

	16-12-2002 00:21									#29
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one more then...

	16-12-2002 21:35									#30
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okay
i would say lets go with 7, have one AI and maybe someone can replace the AI later on (i think i read in the word FAQ that this should be possible)

could i have the emails of everyone that didnt gave it yet and with whom i dont have email games running ?