12-12-2002 05:59									#1
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With all the problems Civ3:PTW is having, it might be an opportunity to try to draw some new blood over to SMAC.

You can still find SMAC CD's (usually jewel case only) at lots of computer stores around, and priced at about five bucks. Seeing as how multiplayer is tried and true on this game, it's an attractive alternative for all those dejected Civ3 fans that can't play online.

Maybe we should start trolling the PTW forums for new converts...

	12-12-2002 15:47									#2
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It is not a bad idea. It would be good to have some more visitors and followers of the truth...

	12-12-2002 20:43									#3
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I agree aswell, havn't got a linky, but softwarefirst is selling it dirt cheap now (£10 for SMAC and SMAX)

And Civ3 is so crap it deserves trolling

	13-12-2002 00:32									#4
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man I agree aswell, havn't got a linky, but softwarefirst is selling it dirt cheap now (£10 for SMAC and SMAX) And Civ3 is so crap it deserves trolling

Is that £10 each, or for both of them together?

	13-12-2002 03:58									#5
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both together I beleive, been a while since i was there, but it was harder for me to get SMAX on its own then the 2 together, and as i said, they were selling it dirt cheap.

	13-12-2002 04:15									#6
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man I agree aswell, havn't got a linky, but softwarefirst is selling it dirt cheap now (£10 for SMAC and SMAX) And Civ3 is so crap it deserves trolling

Trolling the CIV3 forums will get you banned quicker than saying "Ming is a bastard"!

	13-12-2002 06:09									#7
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yeah...there are already so many thread about how bad the game is, a new one would be closed before you could say........"firaxissucks"

	13-12-2002 11:51									#8
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Firaxis shouldn't have pushed their luck.

	13-12-2002 19:03									#9
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Think positive. We're not saying how much Firaxis sucks. We're just pointing how wonderful they could possibly be by pointing out the omnipotence of SMAC versus the impotence of Civ 3. Think happy thoughts.

	13-12-2002 22:37									#10
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To give Civ3 the credit it deserves, it did have some very good ideas to go in. Sadly, the implementation was rather poor.

Ideas that I liked a lot were:

Resource trading.
Cultural expansion of city harvest squares.
Dissenters - makes conquest realistically difficult.

If SMAX had this, it would really make the game very sophisticated indeed.

Although that having been said, of course, SMAX is far above Civ3 in terms of maturity and implementation.

	14-12-2002 02:40									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia Resource trading.

hated it

quote: Dissenters - makes conquest realistically difficult.

this is one of the biggest complaints about civ3!

quote: SMAX is far above Civ3 in terms of maturity and implementation.

of course

	14-12-2002 03:09									#12
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What do you hate about resource trading? I think it adds a bit of depth to the overall strategy of the game.

Of course, in a futuristic, alien environment, I'm not sure which strategic resources you could come up with, but I think it might be something to consider if they ever do SMAC-2

	14-12-2002 11:51									#13
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Think of the resources in the Lalande variant in Test of Time.