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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:24
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As of 1220 AD we have the following forces available for war with Germany:
9 explorers
28 riflemen
37 cavalary
18 cannons
additionally, we have:
2 knights
5 swordsmen
1 longbowman (I have no idea how he got built)
19 muskets
2 settlers
2 galleys
2 caravels
1 galleon
1 ironclad
AND we have the following units in defense of Uber Island:
1 cavalary
2 riflemen
3 muskets
Some of these may be used for home defense, but due to the rapid development of railroads every one of our cities is now instantly connected to all other cities (mainland only), very few need to be allocated as such. Our defense may be fluid and troops may be moved to any front as necessary.
Our military advisor indicates that, compared to Germany, we have a strong military.
Diplomatically, the only MPPs in existance at this time are between England & Rome, and Rome & Japan. Germany has no sworn allies and, hopefully, will not have any prior to the invasion, however, it may be in our best interest to sign MPPs now with the Aztecs and Greeks to ensure that the Germans do not beat us to it.
Be aware that if we bring England into this war and Germany strikes them, Rome and Japan may be dragged along as well. We are starting the first "World War" that this planet has seen. This is going to be very messy.
I would recommend that we sign a RoP with our eventual ally the Aztecs, and possibly other allied nations. They could use our railway lines to instantly become involved in the war (once a railway bypass is built by Timeline and Gaia) and due to the seemless flow of our lines, they would rarely, if ever, end a turn in our territory. In fact we may want to build railway lines directly to our borders to facilitiate their movement into and OUT OF our territory instantly.
Electricity will be finished next turn. Afterwards, I understand that the plan is to research Scientific Method, however, I would propose that we research Replaceable Parts instead. This advance would give us Infantry(6/10/1) and Artillary(12/0/1 with range of 2 and rate of fire of 2!) (and allow our workers to work 2x as fast). These advancements would allow us to upgrade our riflemen into invincible defenders with the attack strength of a cav and upgrade our cannons into double attack models with long range.
These upgrades may not be ready for the first turn of the war, but the war will last THE DURATION OF OUR MPP, and these upgrade would be ready a turn or two into the war. They could give us a substantial military boost after our initial shock assault.
--Togas
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E_T
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Orlando, Florida
Mar 2001
time: 00:24
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Yes, that's Correct. We will have the Factories starting to come online shortly after the war starts. With PW doing it's job, we should have the Factories up before too long. I've had a lot of Trees that I've been saving for just this eventuallity.
We will have the Facxtories up and Running before you can say, "gosh, that was fast...", but they should start to come onlne about 5 to 6 turns after D-Turn.
But that is'nt for all of the Cities, just most of the olders ones, we will still have a few Mil Units being built during the Interegum. Although, If we take heavy losses, The war might stagnate for a bit. But all of those brand new Factories can then start pumping out the Military...
E_T
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Togas
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California
Jun 2002
time: 21:24
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With regards to RoPs & MPPs:
So long as we sign an RoP at the same time that we sign a MPP we have no fear of backstabbing from that nation. They will be locked in an alliance with us for the duration of the time we give them permission to travel along our railways, and with the declaration of war on Germany, our new allies would be far too wrapped up in our joint war to consider such betrayal. I believe it may actually be impossible to attack someone that you've signed an MPP with, perhaps someone could test this. But in any regards, I have never seen the AI backstab an ally with a MPP.
An RoP with the Aztecs would also allow us to attack Germany from the former American lands.
As for RoPs with other nations, we should only sign them if we are certain that we want their help in this war. Frankly, I don't believe we need the help of any other nations (we are signing MPPs to ensure that Greece and the Aztecs do not attack us), and the presence of their units may hinder our own advances. It may also be in our interest to keep other nations from stealing cities from Germany that we can easily conquer.
Also note: We need to sign a military alliance with England. The last thing we want is for Germany to beat us to England and for us to fight a war with Germany, England, Rome, and Japan.
With regards to Replaceable Parts & the Tech Race with Germany:
Once this war starts, Germany's research will go to nil as they switch their economy to rapidly rush military units to counter us, and as they spend to draw in allies to counter our alliance. Furthermore, our efforts to stop all luxuries from coming into their country will massively destabalize their people and cause them to switch to luxuries, entertainers, or possibly fall into anarchy. Bottom line: Once we attack them, we've basically won the tech war.
There is no need to rush researching Scientific Method, as we can prebuild Theory of Evolution and switch to it at a later time.
There is no need to rush to ToE as we will be the tech leader. We just need to ensure that no other nation builds it before us.
There IS reason to rush to Replaceable Parts as those military advances will double or triple the effectiveness of our cannons with artillary, and infantry will ensure that our vulnerable cities and stacks are secure from counter attack. We could really use the advance for this war.
Furthermore, the doubled worker rate will allow us to RAPIDLY transform our nation into a railroaded production paradise just in time for our factories to take advantage of it.
--Togas
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dejon
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I concur with Togas on England and Replaceable Parts, but not the RoP. We have empty cities! I don't care what assurances are given, I would never sign a RoP with undefended cities.
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joncnunn
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Maryland Heights, MO
Sep 2002
time: 23:24
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Let's leave out the RoP so that we can keep those cities empty.
The more German units our empty cites (out of any real danger) we lure out of their cities, the less costly the war will be.
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Originally posted by Spiffor
I agree with Dejon : we MUST have at least one crappy defender per city. Otherwise, it will be too much of a bait to the AI (you know how the AI is gung ho when it sees an undefended city) |
Edit: In addition, German units we kill inside our territory won't increase War Werriousness, while unit loses on both sides inside German territory will increase war werrriousness.
Last edited by joncnunn on 13-12-2002 at 00:20
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joncnunn
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Maryland Heights, MO
Sep 2002
time: 23:24
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The war doesn't start for 5 turns. (4 after we have Electrecity), this gives plenty of time for the Germans to get Scientific Method half reserached before the war starts.
I also note that it costs 40% science beakers to reserach Replaceable Parts from scratch than Scientic Theory. (Assuming nobody has either tech.)
(Base cost is 100 for Scientific Theory and 140 for Replaceable Parts in 1.21f.)
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[SIZE=1] Originally posted by Togas [/SIZE
With regards to Replaceable Parts & the Tech Race with Germany:
Once this war starts, Germany's research will go to nil as they switch their economy to rapidly rush military units to counter us, and as they spend to draw in allies to counter our alliance. Furthermore, our efforts to stop all luxuries from coming into their country will massively destabalize their people and cause them to switch to luxuries, entertainers, or possibly fall into anarchy. Bottom line: Once we attack them, we've basically won the tech war.
There is no need to rush researching Scientific Method, as we can prebuild Theory of Evolution and switch to it at a later time.
There is no need to rush to ToE as we will be the tech leader. We just need to ensure that no other nation builds it before us.
There IS reason to rush to Replaceable Parts as those military advances will double or triple the effectiveness of our cannons with artillary, and infantry will ensure that our vulnerable cities and stacks are secure from counter attack. We could really use the advance for this war.
Furthermore, the doubled worker rate will allow us to RAPIDLY transform our nation into a railroaded production paradise just in time for our factories to take advantage of it.
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