13-12-2002 16:46									#1
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I put up what I know of the other teams in the Game Status thread:

______________________ Teams _____________________
(turn order number, team name, leader and tribe, civ (qualities), capital)

• 1 Gathering Storm, Stormbringer of the Gathering Storm, Egyptians (?/?), ?
  
• 2 Neu Demogyptica, Fritz_Demogypt of the Demogyptians, Arabs (Expansionist/Religious), NoName
  
• 3 Glory of War, Warmonger of the Warmongers, ? (?/?), Atlantis - (colour: black)
  
• 4 España, Isabella of the Spanish, Spanish (Commercial/Religious), Madrid
  
• 5 Vox Controli, The_One of the Voxians, Persians (Industrious/Scientific), The Voice (contact: Eli (shadowmn @ netvision.net.il)
  
• 6 Lux Invicta, Illuminatus of the Invicti, Ottomans (Industrious/Scientific), Invictus
  
• 7 Legoland, Legos of the Legomen, Carthaginians? (Commercial/Industrious), ? (contact: Vondrack (vondrack @ jimaz.cz), Jack_www (wewon2002 @ hotmail.com)

	13-12-2002 20:41									#2
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Gathering Storm are the Egyptians
NDE are the Arabs
GOW are the Chinese(edited per recent info)
Espana are the Spanish
Vox Controli are the Persians
We know who we are
Legoland are the Carthaginians

Of these, only the Glory of War has made a consistent message of open aggression (they are now playing more like a mercenary...but that still makes them a risky neighbor). (NDE has recently become much more aggressive) All of the others seem to be more neutral.

The Gathering Storm seems to have a strategy most like our own. Build and defend until we have overwhelming reason or capability to act otherwise.

From what I have heard, Espana, NDE (NDE will be our first enemy, there can be no question of this now), and Vox Contoli are the big questions. Of these, I feel that Vox Controli and NDE will have the most aggressive tendancies. I'd say Espana will be an emotional wirlwind, depending on how their infighting works out. I wouldn't trust them much.

On the basis of immediate threat (high to low)
NDE (recently upgraded)
Glory of War
Vox Controli(new info is confusing...leaning towards downgrading)
Gathering Storm(have heard nothing in a long time)
Espana(have heard nothing in a long time)
Legoland(builders...nuff said)

In terms of diplomatic trust (most to least)
Gathering Storm
Legoland
Espana
Vox Controli
Glory of War
NDE (recently downgraded)

In terms of long term threat (high to low)
Vox Controli
Gathering Storm
NDE (recently upgraded)
GOW
Legoland
Espana

Last edited by WarriorPoet on 19-12-2002 at 20:22

	16-12-2002 21:24									#3
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Pay attention to the recent update concerning NDE's recent diplomatic actions.

	17-12-2002 16:04									#4
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I think it's funny Legoland is always at the bottom of our list. Imagine if they just attacked someone, it would be the most unexpected thing....

	17-12-2002 23:56									#5
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With their UU it will be a while until they become remotely warlike.

	18-12-2002 07:01									#6
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Legolands Bronze Working Numidian Mercenaries look very powerful to me, though they are expensive. They will probably get attacked as their failure to conquer other civs makes them small, though there is a small chance they may be able to use peaceful diplomacy to their advantage.

Vox - Persia have a powerful Immortal,
they have sent peace messages (see Foreign Minister communications) and I know Betahound quite well.
They might make a good tech alliance as are scientific.

Celts Celtic swordsmen are very powerful, we need to watch out for them, horsemen will be needed to counter these, or a string of forts to give ZOC and defend against attacks with our sword/spearmen.

Our UU comes quite late, which could be a problem, but it gives us a nice midgame GoldAge

I'll post the full team info list I made when I can tommorrow,
Off to bed , Bye!

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Last edited by Admiral PJ on 18-12-2002 at 07:31

	18-12-2002 07:42									#7
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I think Glory of War are China in fact, Looking at roleplays new foreign office thread in thepublic area, they have them as China.
Warrior poets table may be wrong.. we need to make sure they're china.
I remember someone telling me they chose China, but put Cuba to confuse us.

China has the Riders which are quite powerful, but more costly than the arabs knights who also are move 3.

	18-12-2002 09:54									#8
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Vox and us our the only Sci. civs. We should agree to hold on to Monotheism, etc, or something.

	19-12-2002 20:24									#9
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GOW is indeed playing the Chinese.

So many enemies...so little time...

I now really dislike NDE. They are playing like slippery snakes, ruining a spring picnic, and whispering spoiled thoughts into the minds of children...

	23-12-2002 23:01									#10
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Whats our stance on relations with NDE? I already have few thoughts on how to publicly put down NDE's reputation before we go to war if we will... the trade deal breaking down could be a gem for our justification to go to war.

anyway NDE has ansars... so does GoW, rider with better defense. Im starting to see them as a civ thats very similar.

	24-12-2002 08:38									#11
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From what I know of the current situation, apathy and ignoring them has been the most popular course of action (as well as the easiest to undertake ).