13-12-2002 19:21									#1
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I think Lux and New Demo have made contact with each other and thats why they are taking so much discussion between their turns.

When we make contact am I supposed to wait for the ambassadors to hash out a deal or what?

EDIT: They have made contact with us:

quote: From email: Hello Ghengis... we soon will send you the save file... but good news: our scout is shaking hand with your warrior :-) So we are neighbours... nice to meet you! and of cause we are very interested in a peace agreement! We also could offer you something to trade... as arabian civ we have pottery and ceremonial what you don' have as it seem... maybe you have an idea for a deal! i will soon contact our chief diplomat Nagash but maybe we both can make the first step! good luck and best wishes Borc

Do we trade Masonry for Ceremonial?

	13-12-2002 19:31									#2
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How about we foreign consuls talk to the other teams first about what deals we would make when we come in contact, then the turn we come into contact, we can do a deal right away. Also: what do we want to trade? Our map? Thats pretty much it for now. Later: how about the wheel? Should we trade as much as possible? As FC, I wish to do what the team as a whole wants, and not just what I think appropriate.

But, here's what I reccomend:

Trade everything!! The more we trade, the more we benefit. Also we get a better reputation, which is important for us mercenaries. Yes, trade our map for theirs. I will start talks with my teams today.

	13-12-2002 19:33									#3
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Okay, so Masory and Warrior Code for Ceremonial Burial and Pottery?

Give me some feedback I don't want to delay the game all day.

	13-12-2002 19:35									#4
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don't trade anything yet, we need more time to decide on a course of action

	13-12-2002 19:37									#5
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quote: Originally posted by korn469 don't trade anything yet, we need more time to decide on a course of action

If we don't trade anything and they trade for Masonry with Lego next turn we are out in the cold.

	13-12-2002 19:43									#6
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quote: If we don't trade anything and they trade for Masonry with Lego next turn we are out in the cold.

not exactly, we can still demand a tech from them in the coming turns, i don't think we should trade yet till we fully weigh the pro's and con's more, but if you do trade anything, trade masonry since four other teams have it, but do not trade them warrior code! we are the only civ with it, and it would allow them to build archers, which could hamper our invasion

	13-12-2002 19:47									#7
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also i wouldn't be totally adverse to trading them masonry for their world map, but don't trade them our map, in fact you might either want to kill their scout or order them to remove it, and if lego really wants to be our vassels them sending us some tech as soon as we meet them would be a perfect time to prove their loyalty

	13-12-2002 19:56									#8
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which techs do we have right now?

	13-12-2002 20:01									#9
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First of all I don't see how we can trade maps without Mapmaking.

Currently we have Masonry and Warrior Code.
They have Ceremonial Burial and Pottery.

	13-12-2002 20:04									#10
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GF

i'm sorry for that i'm an idiot

anyways, if you do trade, trade masonry, but don't trade warrior code

	13-12-2002 20:06									#11
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can we trade maps without mapmaking? i guess not...

	13-12-2002 21:41									#12
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Masonry for Pottery. That is our best choice. Wait on WC untill we can trade it to more then one team. Pottery, on the other hand, is unique to Neu Demogyptia. Try to get that tech so we can trade it to someone else and screw ND!

	13-12-2002 21:46									#13
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Masonry for Pottery. That is our best choice. Wait on WC untill we can trade it to more then one team. Pottery, on the other hand, is unique to Neu Demogyptia. Try to get that tech so we can trade it to someone else and screw ND!

Pottery doesn't do much for us and Demogyptia has Scouts making it highly unlikely for us to beat them to anyone. Besides they already gave us Ceromonial Burial in advance (since they traded someone else for Masonry).

	13-12-2002 22:12									#14
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they gave us ceromonial burial?

	13-12-2002 23:26									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Panzer32 they gave us ceromonial burial?

Yep. Warms my heart so that I may not want to take them out immediately. Maybe they should be allowed vassal status.