14-12-2002 23:05									#1
	for Civ4 singleplayer turnless? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

what would you think of firaxis programming singleplayer as some variation of turnless in the next civ game instead of turnbased. improvements would probably need to be made of course

	15-12-2002 01:36									#2
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quote: Originally posted by brianshapiro what would you think of firaxis programming singleplayer as some variation of turnless in the next civ game instead of turnbased. improvements would probably need to be made of course

Two words: NO WAY!

	15-12-2002 02:11									#3
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civ should really be tbs...its a strat game, not a rts game...for rts civ3 sucks

	15-12-2002 04:42									#4
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Civ4 turnless = RoN?

Therefore Official Civ4 should only be turn based

	15-12-2002 05:53									#5
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cant you just goto multiplayer, host a game BY YOUR SELF, kick everyone else OUT and pick your AI's and choose turnless?

	15-12-2002 06:15									#6
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NO AI in turnless, cannot be done

OT:
never

	15-12-2002 06:22									#7
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lol, have they started civ4?

	15-12-2002 10:07									#8
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if you want to play a civ game with AI's in turnless, play my game

(or if you want to play humans and AI's in turnless, play my game )

	15-12-2002 10:10									#9
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lol

	16-12-2002 13:05									#10
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what's so funny mazzz?

	16-12-2002 13:25									#11
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Turnless sucks deep.
It takes the heart out of the game!

The decision making needs time!
If you make the game turnless it will result in a war-game.

	16-12-2002 14:17									#12
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever for rts civ3 sucks

For anything.....

I will abstain from completing my sentence

	16-12-2002 14:57									#13
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Oh I would like to have simultanious move like in M.A.X. so everyone still have to end there turn (as an option of course).

	16-12-2002 15:24									#14
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ok, i cant say how turnless is in Civ3, because I've never played PtW, but based on what I've done I think turnless mode can be a good option. If you slow it down, it's almost like a normal game but without the endless WAITING. sure, simultanious moves helps the problem, but it doesn't solve it.

	16-12-2002 16:19									#15
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NO NO NO

Turn based, please! I like to think. If I want finger cramps I play AoK of War3.

	16-12-2002 20:32									#16
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It was and is all about TBS.

It should stay so.

Next thing people will want to make a shooter out of Civ.

	16-12-2002 20:46									#17
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Now wait... hold on... I feel an idea brewing... here it comes..

Civ 4 as a ROLE-PLAYING GAME!!! How bout it Firaxis!?

	16-12-2002 22:00									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Falconius Now wait... hold on... I feel an idea brewing... here it comes.. Civ 4 as a ROLE-PLAYING GAME!!! How bout it Firaxis!?

Nah, can already be done with Civ3... Just ask Togas and his Roleplayers crew in the PtW Demogame.

	16-12-2002 23:16									#19
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NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

	17-12-2002 00:08									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Falconius Now wait... hold on... I feel an idea brewing... here it comes.. Civ 4 as a ROLE-PLAYING GAME!!! How bout it Firaxis!?

Why not make a FPS while were at it. Ooh, and we could do a flight sim, too: CIV: INTERCEPTOR.

	17-12-2002 00:14									#21
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We could make it "The Civs" and have little Abe Lincoln running around trying to earn enough money to add the West Wing onto his White House.

	17-12-2002 00:56									#22
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the "Civilization Hot Date" expansion pack//

	17-12-2002 03:16									#23
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i havent played turnless but can easily imagine how it goes.
how would it reduce thought (if the cycles are slower and other things improved)
i find age of empires and warcraft to be without thought because it seems to me too much "just build and move" you set your buildings to build units and then just move them towards the enemy and then move them further and there isnt anything else to do.
but even in turnless there is some management of movement, the main difference is that you have to 'think on your feet'

	17-12-2002 03:30									#24
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Well, imagine what the modern age would be like in turnless... Railroads+Turnless==unhappy.

	17-12-2002 09:57									#25
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Turnless civ would not really be civ. The civ series is all about the simple discrete math models that mesh to form a complex whole. Civ is all about knowing that if I move this citizen from this grassland to this forest I will have exactly one less food and exactly one more shield on the next turn. This type of system requires time for a human to digest. Thus, TBS only.