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Sandman
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Sinister Penguin
Aug 2001
time: 05:24
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Nintendo simply doesn't understand the modern games market. They are slowly crumbling, helped by a sycophantic games media which continues to insist that Nintendo makes the best games. Making the 'best games' is a useless title to hold, what they need to do is make the best selling games.
Their games are pretty sophiscated, but if the games have an infantile presentation, they'll not appeal to new gamers, and make veteran gamers uncomfortable. I don't think it's asking much to have a more neutral look to their games.
They need to ruthlessly reevaluate their catalogue of franchises. Pointless characters like Kirby, Yoshi and Donkey Kong should definitely be purged. All they do is steal Mario's thunder.
Mature Nintendo franchises like Metroid, Zelda and F-Zero should have more time devoted to them. Make them into actual, rather than potential, franchises by making more sequels, rather than each new installment appearing every half-decade. This will lead to better brand awareness, since gamers don't have to be re-educated about what the frachise is. Frankly, I would have loved to have a few sequels to Mario 64. The games media may complain about constant 'recycling', but the fact is that gamers love sequels, as long as the quality remains constant. A sequel adds value to it's prequel as well.
There's such a thing as too much innovation. If Nintendo overdoes the quest for originality, then it's games will get a reputation as 'weird', maybe justified, maybe not. Spread the innovations over more sequels. This applies to their joypads as well.
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Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
time: 14:24
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quote:
Mature Nintendo franchises like Metroid, Zelda and F-Zero should have more time devoted to them. Make them into actual, rather than potential, franchises by making more sequels, rather than each new installment appearing every half-decade. This will lead to better brand awareness, since gamers don't have to be re-educated about what the frachise is. Frankly, I would have loved to have a few sequels to Mario 64. The games media may complain about constant 'recycling', but the fact is that gamers love sequels, as long as the quality remains constant. A sequel adds value to it's prequel as well. |
Nintendo is doing exactly this. They already released a Metroid game and a sequel is in production. A new Zelda is coming out in March and it sounds like Nintendo is set on making another for the GC. F-Zero is coming out this year. And another Mario game is being made as well.
Nintendo's doing its best to use its franchises, but they haven't been able to push systems so far. I really don't know why, but it worries me. If games like Metroid Prime and Zelda: The Wind Waker don't push systems, nothing will, and I don't want to see the best game maker in the world go the way of Sega... 
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Ivellios
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Rotterdam
Jan 2003
time: 06:24
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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Search up screenshots for OoT and compare them to "Wind Waker". There is a LARGE graphical realism difference, TRUST ME 
 Great troll, FP. |
He's right you know... Ocarina of Time was full of realistic Elves (Hylians to be exact), Fairies, Dragons, huge Spiders, fish that are bigger on the inside than on the outside! 
I thought that most people here agreed gameplay was way more important than the graphics. I guess not, since a lot of people here are writing Zelda off just because it's cel-shaded.
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How do you explain the fact that Metroid Prime hasn't cracked 1M copies sold in the US, even though it was for sale in (by far) the two highest volume months in gaming history?
If MP had problems with keeping sales up (they fell drastically in december, the strongest month in gaming history), why do you think a cell-shaded Zelda game is going to do any better? |
Nintendo's marketing sucks. Quality isn't assurance to big sales. Hell, anything with a license slapped on (LotR, Harry Potter, FIFA, NFL, etc.) will sell well no matter how much tripe it is.
The majority of the people that buy games are still casual gamers, who don't read magazines, websites, etc. They're not as informed as the more 'hobby' gamer and they just buy titles which are popular. A good example is EA Sport's line-up, which is totally inferior to Sega Sports's 2KX line-up.
Then there's the hormonally frustrated early-teen kiddo that is afraid to play to anything with cheerful graphics. God forbid someone sees him playing Mario! He just buys whatever is considered 'cool'. Again, no matter how much tripe it is.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:24
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Eat crow? Why?
I always knew Zelda preorders would be phenomenal.
1) The hardcore N-fans
2) The promise of OoT for free if you preorder.
3) The fact that there's absolutely nothing else of interest on the Gamecube's radar for quite some time
Is it any surprise 560,000 people preordered?
The fun part will seeing how it actually sells after the first two weeks. My wager is it drops like a rock off the top 10 after 3 weeks, still take a year to sell 1M. 
Do you really think mainstream America would care for Zelda? The new incarnation is as elitist as you can get, with an art style that's sure to make most Americans scoff at it.
Even Splinter Cell on Xbox sold 500,000 its first week, but it still sold 100,000 a week for a month after that. My predictions for TWW:
Initial sales: 700,000 (due to preorders)
Week 2 sales: 110,000
Week 3 sales: 50,000
Week 4 sales: 40,000
So maybe 1 year was too long. But still, it'd sell far more without the goofy art style. And please don't go and defend it, I know you like it.
Last edited by Asher on 13-03-2003 at 23:13
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Comrade Tassadar
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I guess not, since a lot of people here are writing Zelda off just because it's cel-shaded. |
Yes, gameplay does take priority, but if the graphics ruin the atmosphere.....
Zelda 64 was a beautiful game. I went to the store yesterday and played a demo of Wind Waker. Gameplay was like usual, but.....The graphics, as I predicted, always took me out of the game.
This game is permanently written off.
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DinoDoc
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AECCP loves Democracy
Sep 1999
time: 23:24
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How did you people beat Phantom Ganon?
PS When is Splinter Cell being ported to the GC?
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