17-12-2002 03:14									#31
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It's the left-liberal thing of wanting to be hurt, offended and a victim.

	17-12-2002 03:16									#32
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aawwww.... poor liberal baby....

[aahz pouts and pats snotty nosed liberal baby gently on the head]

	17-12-2002 03:23									#33
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Yeah, they are cry-babies really. Wanting to be taken care of, by the state.

	17-12-2002 04:06									#34
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Erp, I'm liberal and left Bod's. I'm not offended. You, however, are a prejudiced individual who listens only to stereotypes.

And socialism... well I've got to go, and don't wanna get into that, and don't wanna threadjack, so goodbye.

	17-12-2002 04:06									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Another symptom of the secularization of Christmas. It all started with using X-mas. The subliminal/subconscious inferral that the Christ part of Christmas can be substituted as in an algebraic equation. Ahhh.... for the olden days when you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a nice Nativity scene.

Yeah, throwing dead furry mammals at holy icons was fun... [sigh]

wait, X-mas is algebra? I thought it was a subliminal message for porn... oh wait, did I say that here? Am I at the wrong forum again? DAMN!

	17-12-2002 05:02									#36
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I'll let Paiktis or somebody else who knows greek explain why X is used for Christ. It has nothing to do with algebra.

	17-12-2002 05:04									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Felch X I'll let Paiktis or somebody else who knows greek explain why X is used for Christ. It has nothing to do with algebra.

In Greek Christmas is Χριστούγεννα, or if your browser doesn't support Greek alphabet, Xristougena.

X in greek = Ch.

Also Christ is Χριστός ~ Xristos

But I don't know if the "X-mas" saying comes from that.

	17-12-2002 05:08									#38
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Probably though.

	17-12-2002 05:09									#39
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quote: Originally posted by trickey Recently a person where i live got offended when a employee at a grocery store wished him "merry Christmas". The man doesn't celebrate Christmas. Now the store has a rule that emplyees must say "happy Holidays" instead of "merry Christmas". Do you guys think that is right?

Matthew 5:10: Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

	17-12-2002 05:10									#40
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I'm pretty sure it does.

But I find 'Happy Holidays' deeply offensive, since I was raised a devout anti-American.

	17-12-2002 05:12									#41
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	17-12-2002 05:14									#42
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 X in greek = Ch.

Thanks, that's the important thing.

In Catholic churches you find Chi and Rho on a lot of vestments and texts and things, overlaid so the X and P are on top of each other.

I guess in Protestant churches where such ornamentation is discouraged, people have less of an opportunity to make the connection.

	17-12-2002 05:17									#43
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I thought the language of Christianity was Latin and not Greek.

	17-12-2002 05:23									#44
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Jesus spoke Aramaic, the NT was in Greek - Latin is only the language of Western Christianity.

	17-12-2002 05:40									#45
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Latin is the language of the church, but they're fond of greek letters.

	17-12-2002 05:47									#46
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Latin is the preferred language of the Roman Catholic Church.

The Old Testament was written in Hebrew. The New Testament was written in ancient Greek.

	17-12-2002 09:17									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia If someone says "Happy Hannukah" or something, I would not be offended, I would wish them a happy hannukah back.

True, but then again, you don't have a history going back hundreds of years of your ancestors being killed for not being Jewish.

It's understandable if Jews and other non-Christians show annoyance of having Christianity shoved down their throats once again.

	17-12-2002 13:15									#48
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How is wishing someone a Merry Christmas shoving Christianity down someone's throat? The intention is not to evangelise, but to spread goodwill.

Trust me, if a Christian were trying to evangelise, it would be somewhat more obvious

	17-12-2002 13:45									#49
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This world is going bananas

**** it all

Just for that I'm going to go to athiest meeting and wish everyone a merry christmas.

makes you think athiests are the most intolerant people in the world.

	17-12-2002 15:37									#50
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I'm an atheist, and it would never occur to me to be offended by this. In fact, I will happily wish everyone a merry Christmas.

"Christmas" is just a word. Regardless of its origins, it's now just a label for the not-particularly-Christian (and originally pagan) winter festival. It's a holiday where secular pleasures are celebrated in excess (eating too much, drinking too much, having a good time).

	17-12-2002 15:39									#51
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Or you could just say happy festivus