17-12-2002 03:03									#1
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Its true! Check this link!

http://www.bestbuy.com/software/detail.asp?e=11169993






PS: This is just a joke concerning apolyton's dating system. . . and is not intended to cause heart failure and severe depression among the already tormented moo3 hopefuls.

Last edited by Kc7mxo on 31-12-2002 at 08:18

	17-12-2002 03:13									#2
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you probably havent noticed that you can now choose your date and time format for the forums....

	17-12-2002 03:22									#3
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No its 12th of January, you dumbass

	17-12-2002 04:20									#4
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This was funny as long as it lasted. MarkG, you shouldn't have shot it down... think of all the fun we could have had in this thread.

	17-12-2002 04:32									#5
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quote: you probably havent noticed that you can now choose your date and time format for the forums....

No I hadn't. Heh, this joke was brought on because a friend of mine dropped into this forum a week ago, and was complaininig to me that there hadn't been any activity since october!




And has everyone tried froogle.com ? Thats where I found this ad, it seems to be a pretty cool search engine. its from the creators of google, and searches for sales and such.

	17-12-2002 12:41									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Kc7mxo No I hadn't. Heh, this joke was brought on because a friend of mine dropped into this forum a week ago, and was complaininig to me that there hadn't been any activity since october!

for another example of crazy dates....
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...?threadid=71166

quote: And has everyone tried froogle.com ?

did you try searching for "apolyton" on froogle?

	17-12-2002 17:44									#7
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tried it... The first result was for Civ Fanatics!! the Second was for Apoloyton.
(or rather pages on the above sites I think)

	17-12-2002 20:39									#8
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someone please remind me of how the date formats got so messed up over the years? I mean, its not like euros are from mars or something. or are they?

	17-12-2002 21:36									#9
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don't they do it DD/MM/YY in Europe? It really makes more sense, I mean MM/DD/YY WTF... When you really think about it

	17-12-2002 22:10									#10
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yes, we do it DD/MM/YY
I think we always did it that way

and we (the germans at least) use points between the numbers, not '/'
so today its 17.12.2002

	17-12-2002 22:11									#11
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I agree, much better saying "23rd December 2002" that "December 23rd 2002"

But what is totally correct is the ISO 8601 format:

Complete date:
YYYY-MM-DD (eg 1997-07-16)

So The Euroupean way is basically that reversed, never really understood why America have to put months first, it really doesn't make sense. The first value(s) are the one that changes the most (days), the last value(s) are the ones that change the least (years)

	17-12-2002 22:13									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Tharsonius yes, we do it DD/MM/YY I think we always did it that way and we (the germans at least) use points between the numbers, not '/' so today its 17.12.2002

Its like the French use , instead of . in currency.

€4,39, for example.

Strange.

	17-12-2002 23:06									#13
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It really does not matter, it just what you are use to using. I suspect that we just did what any child does and rebel against the parents where ever they can, hence mm/dd/yy no metric and the like. They wanted to show there independance. Now we will be hard pressed to agree to one format on anything, too bad.

	17-12-2002 23:11									#14
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Well different countries have seemed to have aggreed with the ISO8601 format.

	18-12-2002 01:39									#15
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but since best buy is an american company, the date really should be 12/1/2003. what they're actually saying is december 1st 2003! unless best buy is full of eurocommies and subversives

	18-12-2002 06:22									#16
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Now we will be hard pressed to agree to one format on anything, too bad.

Too bad, too bad......
No! Too bad that we lost a Mars probe in 1999 because NASA messed up feet and meters!!!

	18-12-2002 06:48									#17
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The ISO measure are meters (thank God!) so go complain to the american scientists in NASA, not to the rest of the others.

	18-12-2002 09:02									#18
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The ISO format has the added useful property that date strings sort properly; i.e., lexicographic order is also chronological order.

	19-12-2002 03:49									#19
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I think I will like this ISO8601 format very much , because in Hungary (and in Japan btw) we use this format. You can think this ISO format is a Hungaro-Japanies conspiracy. I am patiently waiting for the next ISO stuff, wich will change your name order to our ones (ie. our first name is the family name and our last name is the "first" name). BTW Japanies use this system too.

	20-12-2002 16:27									#20
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quote: Its like the French use , instead of . in currency. €4,39, for example. Strange.

It's the same in Germany. And there's nothing strange about it.

	28-12-2002 09:40									#21
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quote: Originally posted by rob.derosa I agree, much better saying "23rd December 2002" that "December 23rd 2002" [snip] So The Euroupean way is basically that reversed, never really understood why America have to put months first, it really doesn't make sense. The first value(s) are the one that changes the most (days), the last value(s) are the ones that change the least (years)

Right.... This is why I start work at 30:08 AM... The minutes change most often, then hours, then AM/PM so this would follow the same logic? That probably makes more sense if designing the system from the start, but it's just not a popular setup. Even if everyone in Europe started using that format I still don't think it would catch on here... Same thing with dates.

Everyone seems to likes the ISO standard format (and a couple of my profs have been completely inflexible about requiring only the use of this format). I agree that it's a 'better' format with more universal understanding so when it becomes standard here I'll be happy to switch. But in the meantime there's no way I'm going to use the Euro format and when wondering if something is on Jan 12, or Dec 1, I'll do what I've always done, look for a date in the last half of the month to pin down the format being used.

Shuck

	28-12-2002 09:50									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Kc7mxo PS: This is just a joke concerning apolyton's dating system. . . and is not intended to cause heart failure and severe depression among the already tormented moo3 hopefuls.

What's the problem? You still don't want to be a part of the world, eh?

	28-12-2002 12:06									#23
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quote: What's the problem? You still don't want to be a part of the world, eh?

Not sure what you mean, but like i said above; a friend logged on to apolyton for the first time and was checking out the forum. then he comes in to see my (he's my next door neighbor at school) and asks me why I bother to read the forum, nobody had posted in there since the 12th of october. :P


I thought it was rather funny. Then later, I was looking at froogle.com, and spotted the date at best buy. I thought it was funny. . .

and since i didn't want anyone to think i was a complete fool, i posted the addendum. So, I'm just the run of the mill fool.

	29-12-2002 04:13									#24
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Has anyone noticed that Best Buy changed their date to March 3rd 2003 now?

I guess the bright side is there's no confusion as to date systems anymore

	29-12-2002 04:27									#25
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Hah! Thats my birthday!

	29-12-2002 04:48									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Shuck Right.... This is why I start work at 30:08 AM... The minutes change most often, then hours, then AM/PM so this would follow the same logic? Shuck

RIGHT!!!

Months first make more sense. It just sounds better to say December 23rd, than 23 December.

Makes ya sound like a robot of some sort. vee4473 says in robotic tone..."23 December 2002, I maintain correct time unit progression...blip blip.."


When someone asks you the time do you say it's 30:8, or 8:30?

by the way, the US military uses the day/month/year crap. drove me nuts

	29-12-2002 07:00									#27
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Of course, if you said 23rd of December as most normal people do, then it wouldn't sound so strange.

	30-12-2002 01:42									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Kc7mxo Hah! Thats my birthday!

Mine too!

Weird......

	30-12-2002 02:08									#29
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Worrying about date formats is a bit too much when there are backwaters out there that haven't even managed to adopt the metric system yet - chugging along using fricken' medieval units... sweet jesus on a pogo stick, how do they cope?

[This message brought to you by a physics major who did his master thesis in the good ol' US of A and was AMAZED with how utterly lacking the various imperial measures are. Not that Europe can be said to be much better until we finally spank the Brits into submission and force the archaic buggers to step up to the 18th century, let alone the 21st.]

	30-12-2002 04:16									#30
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quote: Originally posted by moomin [This message brought to you by a physics major who did his master thesis in the good ol' US of A and was AMAZED with how utterly lacking the various imperial measures are. Not that Europe can be said to be much better until we finally spank the Brits into submission and force the archaic buggers to step up to the 18th century, let alone the 21st.]

As a physics major, you should be familar with a concept called interia. An object at rest and all of that jazz.