18-12-2002 20:24									#1
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This issue just won't go away. Lott should resign his position because his arse is now property of the Black Legislative Caucus. He is so desperate to save his political career that he now says he supports "affirmative action across the board". Pander pander pander. From now on he will have to agree with everything the Black Caucus says, or face more accusations of racism.

The problem is, Lott says he will resign the senate if he loses his leadership position. This will cost the Repubs their majority.

Lott is acting like a spoiled child.

	18-12-2002 20:53									#2
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Lott should piss off. He made a blunder, and not for the first time.

	18-12-2002 20:58									#3
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He should resign as leader but stay in the senate, anything else shows that he didnt have the 'right stuff' to be leader anyway.

	18-12-2002 21:03									#4
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This week certainly has been a buzzkill for the post-election Republican lovefest. Very interesting to watch everything unfold from the outside as an independant; I'm sure Cali would agree. (I don't plan on typing that last fragment again for quite a while.)

	18-12-2002 21:48									#5
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Lott has certainly went further to say he is sorry than he should have. But I hope he stands up and looks his fellow Republicans in the eye and forces them to vote.

Looks to be a win for the dark side.

	18-12-2002 21:53									#6
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It becomes clearer and clearer that the issue is not what Lott said but In-fighting, intrigue, partisanship and court politics.

	18-12-2002 21:57									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer This week certainly has been a buzzkill for the post-election Republican lovefest. Very interesting to watch everything unfold from the outside as an independant; I'm sure Cali would agree. (I don't plan on typing that last fragment again for quite a while.)

Yes, it certainly is interesting. At first I thought this would all blow over, but it's turning into a real test of Republican unity. Personally I wouldn't be sad to see Lott leave altogether. He will only be a liability from this point on.

	18-12-2002 22:08									#8
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Well, I think its important that someone survives one of these mistakes. We have seen this over and over. A slip of the tongue and a person's whole career is ruined.

I hope Lott stands his ground.

	18-12-2002 22:12									#9
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I hope he doesn't just for the fact that everyone and their gramma is giving him a major shakedown.

When the usual peanut gallery like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton start stepping on toes, demanding this and that, I almost wanna root for the guy.

	18-12-2002 22:41									#10
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick Well, I think its important that someone survives one of these mistakes. We have seen this over and over. A slip of the tongue and a person's whole career is ruined. I hope Lott stands his ground.

One slip? One? Lott's being doing this sort of stuff for years. I'm damn glad someone finally called him on it.

	18-12-2002 22:50									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe It becomes clearer and clearer that the issue is not what Lott said but In-fighting, intrigue, partisanship and court politics.

Of course. He got a free pass, after all, when he likened gays to psychopaths and kleptomaniacs.

	18-12-2002 23:05									#12
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and your disagreement with that is...




Lott is a snake oil salesman, like most of em. Its just ironic that he's being pulled down by what could be construed as a fairly innocuous remark.

	18-12-2002 23:09									#13
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH and your disagreement with that is...

My psychosis and kleptomania have nothing to do with my homosexuality.

	19-12-2002 00:20									#15
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It's also recently come out that he said in 2000 that Thurmond should have been President..........

As Caligista said, he is pretty much going to have to pander to the NAACP now if he stays as majority leader. His entire career he has an anti-affirmative action voting record, and now he suddenly supports it across the board!? I think he is changing his political position here in a feeble attempt to save his ass. This man has got to go as Majority Leader.

	19-12-2002 01:33									#16
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no he shouldn't resign. He was elected.

But he will obviously be defeated in the next election.

I'm against forced PC. Let the voters decide. That is what democracy if for.

	19-12-2002 01:36									#17
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"no he shouldn't resign. He was elected. "

I think Caligista was talking about resigning as majority leader, not resigning as a Senator. He most certainly should not resign as Senator since MS has a democratic governor.

	19-12-2002 01:38									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi "no he shouldn't resign. He was elected. " I think Caligista was talking about resigning as majority leader, not resigning as a Senator. He most certainly should not resign as Senator since MS has a democratic governor.

Yep. That's what I was saying.

	19-12-2002 01:39									#19
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i agree that the issue has been taken way out of context...but I don't like the man anyway so as far as his career - i couldn't care less

	19-12-2002 01:40									#20
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I certainly hope that he doesn't go all 2 year old on us if he is ousted. Any appointee by the Democratic governor will serve a solid year before a special election is called, IIRC.

	19-12-2002 01:44									#21
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I certainly hope that he doesn't go all 2 year old on us if he is ousted.

If he does that will be the end of his career with the repubs. Maybe he could turn democrat now that he loves AA so much.

	19-12-2002 01:48									#22
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That ultimatum (leave leadership = leave senate) was his worst move. It destroyed any good will he might have had from many quarters, including my own 1/290,000,000th.

	19-12-2002 01:54									#23
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quote: Originally posted by DanS That ultimatum (leave leadership = leave senate) was his worst move. It destroyed any good will he might have had from many quarters, including my own 1/290,000,000th.

Well Lott has publicly said he plans to serve out his term no matter what happens, I think it has mainly been Lott allies who have been making that threat. I am thinking if Lott does want to go two year old on us we should go ahead and call him on his threat, just try to do whatever is nessecary to stop another defection a la Jeffords. Worse case scenario we have to wait for the special election that DinoDoc mentioned.

	19-12-2002 02:02									#24
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Dan: Do you see think the backing of Stevens is going to be of any help to him?

	19-12-2002 02:05									#25
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You didn't ask me, but let me voice an opinion.

No.

	19-12-2002 02:26									#26
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DD: Well, it can't hurt.

Livingston was able to project power into the leadership fray from Appropriations in the House a couple of years ago. But the dynamics of the Senate are much more individual. Each senator is a power, or at least views himself as a power answerable to nobody but his constituents.

	19-12-2002 02:42									#27
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So in the long run it will be that time heals all wounds eh?



(Meaning he'll ride this one out and hope that it will be forgotten in a few months.)

	19-12-2002 04:55									#28
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I think he will survive a vote.

	19-12-2002 05:06									#29
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I find it funny, that Jessie Jackson and Senator Byrd said racist remarks but never apologied for it, or even called on it.

And before you tell "But Lott has said this before" I will like to say this:


WELL THEN, WHY THE **** DIDN'T YOU CALL HIM ON IT THE FIRST TIME!!!!??????????



I feel better.


No matter how much he apologies for what he said, there are going to be people calling for his head, why? Because there are those who hate and loathe republicians and after the last elections, are just dieing to chew on one. As far as I'm concerned, this is totaly blown over board.


BTW, I'm an idependent.

EDIT: A few grammer corrections.

	19-12-2002 05:32									#30
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Lott will be ousted from the leadership position, but I don't see Mississippi issuing a recall vote for him, what a pity!