19-12-2002 00:11									#1
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I'm working on a post that will changed the nature of Beyond Alpha Centauri somewhat in that the humans are going to be shown a glimpse of what it was like in the good old days before their puny civilzations were born.

Mr. President: Your scientist may become more important than you imagine.

Franky: The Hive may soon find that their allies the Bree are not one the most powerful aliens out there.

History Guy: The PKs may find that they will have to drop some of their distrust of the Spartans in order to fight a more powerful enemy.

Kass: The Terrans may get some breathing room unless of course the Spartans And Drones and other Chiron civs cannot repel the comming threat.

General: The Cadre may find themselves at first left out of the gathering storm but will soon become the focus of the attention of several fleets. At least the space surrounding your planet.

For the others out there, it is time to come back soon.

Everyone stay tuned.

	19-12-2002 01:35									#2
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This will be exactly what we, err, well, at least I, need. A good old "things are never gonna be the same" sort of twist.

	19-12-2002 03:05									#3
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Something is going to attack a portion of the Spartan Federation. Something from the past. Something that will make the Bree and Gorn send fleets to attack. Something that force the Scientists investigating the various buildings and temples to race against time to discover the secrets. Something that will force the Spartans to do something that they thought unimaginable before hand. Something that will force the Hive to rethink the value of the Bree. Something that will force the Terrans to rethink their position in the human family of civiliztions. Something that will bring everyone to the Cadre system for a fight. Something that will, for however briefly, force humanity to unite.

	19-12-2002 05:10									#4
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But this may screw up the wonderful plot I'd developed for the Terran Peace Conference...Kassiopeia!! Quick! Write up that post!

	19-12-2002 05:12									#5
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Oh, and don't you think we've got far too many aliens in the story as it is? I hope it will simply be the Progenitors or the Bree instead of another race...unless it's the Daleks, of course.

	19-12-2002 06:28									#6
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We all know how things work. It takes time to get things started. It won't interfer with the peace talks but I think we need to get that story line rolling and over with. Kessel won't stay on Firaxis forever and when the attack comes he will have to leave for Sparta. So Kass and History, you guys can go on with what you have planned.

As far as the aliens go, we have a lot right now but they have done nothing since the story has began. The future Hive-Spartan conflict is still on tap but there seems to be nothing that will realistaclly set them off. The Spartans are in the Cadre system and all the Hive will do is send in disguised mercs. So far it's in no ones interest to actually start fighting. Well we are going to get one.

As usual, I'm open to ideas.

So far this is what I got.

Aliens(still to be determined who or what) will attack a Spartan station on the border with unknown space. There will be a few Drone ships there and they will be destroyed as well. Thousands will die and the Spartans will be furious. The same aliens will be responsible for attacking the Bree and Gorn. They will eventually send ships towards the human sphere and meet each other somewhere(maybe still in Spartan territory) they will fight the alien ship(s) and be destroyed. The aliens that the humans have feared for so long will be showed as powerless agains the new or should i say old aliens. Sparta is forced to ask for help because it is completely beyond their power to defeat alone. Some send help others don't. The scientist working on the various temples are told about the one in Spartan Territory in the quarenteed zone where the Epo live. A secret that Sparta is forced to admitt to. They find evidence that is what the aliens are looking for. Forces converge on the Epo system. thankfully for humanity the alien vessel is not all powerful. its encouter with the Gorn and Bree have weekened it but it still takes many numbers of ships and thousands of sacrifices to take them out.

All of this wont happen over night. The aliens WILL NOT perform a bliz of human territory. they will take their time.

Comments? Ideas?

	19-12-2002 06:53									#7
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Well, that post was just to impress upon you guys that Morgan is acting against the Novan traitors, and he's taking no prisoners! Ahahaha!

Well, Sprayber, it sounds OK to me. Might want to help with the creation of these guys. I've been thinking of trying to come up with a history for the Progenitors...maybe instead I could try and come up with a history for these guys with you. Really create our own little race instead of lifting the aliens out of something else (i.e. Bree, etc.) and actually sitting down and molding them ourselves. Unless you want to make them Daleks. Heh heh heh.

	19-12-2002 06:55									#8
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And hey! Cybergod, Silence, Sovereign, Lonestar, et Urban Ranger, where are you guys?!

	19-12-2002 07:34									#9
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Love the idea! THIS looks like its going to be the spark that sets off the "galactic war" we've all been looking for. I can do the Hive view of the Bree conflict. Maybe have the Bree "coerce" Emperor Yang to join the Bree's side.

When the other factions see Hive ships alongside Bree war vessels, it'd probably have Kessel fuming! (or so I hope)

I'm in 100%

Go Hive!

	19-12-2002 08:24									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Love the idea! THIS looks like its going to be the spark that sets off the "galactic war" we've all been looking for. I can do the Hive view of the Bree conflict. Maybe have the Bree "coerce" Emperor Yang to join the Bree's side. When the other factions see Hive ships alongside Bree war vessels, it'd probably have Kessel fuming! (or so I hope) I'm in 100% Go Hive!

Remember Franky, if the hive send their ships with the bree against the aliens then they will be destroyed along with the Bree. Or at least the first encounter with them. The point is that the new aliens are older and stronger than the bree. I suspect that the Bree and Gorn would not be sending all their ships. just enough to make a point. Maybe the Bree will have problems getting enough ships and convince the to send ships as well.

Ideas are welcome on how to work this out.

	19-12-2002 12:21									#11
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It sounds good. I'm imagining frantic action on two fronts, one with the leaders trying to rustle up enough forces to fight the aliens and another with the researchers trying desperately to figure out the secrets of the temples, culminating in a battle of War of Wrath proportions!

quote: Cybergod, Silence, Sovereign, Lonestar, et Urban Ranger, where are you guys?!

Hmm . . . Cybergod and Lonestar are MIA. Last I heard of Sovereign, he was at school and didn't have a good 'Net connection; but he expected to be back by Thanksgiving. Silence is probably at SpaceBattles, and Urban Ranger is in the OT.

Guys? Are you reading this?

As for the Hive, perhaps the Bree will feel so threatened by the new aliens that they claim an obligation for Emperor Yang to assist them as an ally.

On an unrelated note, AC-Fiction is picking up again - and just in time, as some guy named Taz is speaking of the unthinkable merger.

	19-12-2002 14:59									#12
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Silence talked with me on ICQ yesterday, he said he was coming up with something BAC-related, so I think he's alive and still interested...

	21-12-2002 05:54									#13
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Here is the lates bit of back history. I think I'm going to let some of you take it from here. Yes folks you have an assignment.

Seriously though I got burned out at the point where I stopped and I need some serious alochol suppliment.

http://www.geocities.com/hydro070/BacBackground01.html

	21-12-2002 07:26									#14
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Hmmm... where does the Cadre come into all this? You did say something about that...

	21-12-2002 11:47									#15
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Hmmm... where does the Cadre come into all this? You did say something about that...

Well the Cadre system is still where Sparta and the Hive square off. What are you ideas. I mentioned the final battle occuring near or in the Cadre system. But that really up to everyone. I was mearly presenting possible outcomes. I'm very interested in input from you all.

	22-12-2002 14:50									#16
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Hope Silence stays in this mofo
Anyway, I personally believe Laekdaeomon "Central" is where the galactic war should end AND begin.

I do believe that the Cadre plays an important role in the galactic scheme of things (meaning: The Laekdaemon Cadre is the linchpin of EVERYTHING) and if things do NOT happen the way they do in the Cadre system....thing will turn out much different than the way they do now. Everything that Morgan, Sanchez, Kessel, Tremaine, Adam's and the rest do (I feel) will direct the course of BAC's subsequent events.

Go Sheng-ji and his "omnipotence"!!!!

	22-12-2002 15:25									#17
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Tremaine is dead

Wakazashi

(Sorry, had to nitpick )

	24-12-2002 05:47									#18
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Whoops, my bad!

	24-12-2002 08:11									#19
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The Protectorate has withdrawn into it's old isolationist self for the indefinate future. Sorry.

	24-12-2002 08:28									#20
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Sorry to hear that. Drop in anytime.

	26-12-2002 00:19									#21
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Merry Christmas guys... I'm really trying to get a post done... I'm serious!

	26-12-2002 15:22									#22
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Merry Christmas, AC-Fiction!

	27-12-2002 06:17									#23
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Yeah, Merry Christmas.

Sure you don't want Daleks in the story, eh? Oh well. Your loss...

	08-01-2003 02:40									#24
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Hey guys, ill be away for awhile. A few weeks anyway. I'll be back ready to write but until then take care of my baby ok.

	08-01-2003 03:38									#25
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You got it. I'll stand at the gates until then.

	08-01-2003 04:09									#26
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Say, is it unethical to join a CivGroup you have no intention of really participating in, just because you like its logo?

	09-01-2003 16:26									#27
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I don't see any reason why it would be.

	11-01-2003 05:58									#28
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Ah, thanks. I was gonna get the Legoland logo, but I read their thread and it said you have to be approved by the other members. Stupid elitist thing.

	14-01-2003 12:29									#29
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You know it must be the most boring day ever when I've just spent 30 minutes in the OT trying to get into a fight. I seem to miss all the good fights.

	15-01-2003 06:24									#30
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You know, old bean, Roleplay Team is what you need to go to. Really. I mean it.