19-12-2002 03:38									#1
	Turn 14 Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I finally have it and can load the save.

3350bc

	19-12-2002 04:00									#2
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

GatheringStorm: 33
Demogyptica: 39
Warmongers: 39
Spanish: 39
Voxians: 39
Invictians: 33
Lego: 39

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Running deficit now. Reducing science would increase The Wheel from 7 to 8 turns. Leaving it at 100% and we can see what effect there is next turn.

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Hack moves 8. Sees coast with mountain extending north.

Grog moves 6. Sees source of the river and desert.

Gronk moves 1. Spots a whale.

Slash heads north.

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F11.

Max shields 5, 1st.
Set shields 3, 6th.

Max commerce 7, 1st.
Set commerce 6, 3rd.

	19-12-2002 04:37									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Ah, finally it worked. As for deficit, it will grow yet more next turn, there's a warrior ready again. The settler will also cost 1gpt. Time for city #2, to have 4 more free upkeep.

	19-12-2002 05:15									#4
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Yes. I had to set up an account with another ISP and forward to there. It is freaky. Hotmail cuts off the downloads after 1 second (tried on 3 different computers/connections). So, whatever speed the file comes down at, 1 sec worth is how big it is when cut off. The save was 56K or so, when it should have been 69K.

re the deficit. Yes, I think we should cut back to net 0 next turn. No problem running -1 for the 3 or 4 turns that the first settler is alive, but we have to have that 4 gold in the bank to start with. On the bright side, in 2 turns we will have an income of 7 commerce.

	20-12-2002 00:11									#5
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NYE, could you move Gronk 8 next turn, and the turn after that 4? I know you like to explore the coast, but if I saw it right, it won't lose any tiles of sea exploration, while it would give us a view on all the land earlier. We should be starting to think on where our cities have to come, knowing those tiles might be crucial (or do we already know; is that a wheat peeping under the FoW?).

Further: is Slash going to sentry on lookout North, or are you just moving him as an extra scout?

DeepO

	20-12-2002 00:27									#6
	Got spare money?

I strongly agree with the 8-4 move combination for Gronk.

	20-12-2002 02:53									#7
	Remove this text

I think we are unanimous about Gronk, so far.