19-12-2002 07:50									#1
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The one without Lavernious Coles

OK I was real big on Rich Gannon. I figured if a guy could throw that much without the offense running the ball he had to be good. But Miami showed the limitations of Oakland's offense.

There are a few more I wanted to include but couldn't fit. Oh well.

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	19-12-2002 08:03									#2
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It's still too early to say. For example, if Miami wins their next 2 it's Ricky... but who's to say they win their next 2 on the road?

	19-12-2002 08:05									#3
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That is very true. The NFL is sooo competitive, it depends on the last two weeks.

As of now, I voted for Mike Vick. Without him the Falcons are nothing.

	19-12-2002 08:09									#4
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I had to vote for Brett Favre. Without him the Packers are nothing. True he played hurt a bit and his preformance didn't seem to be that great. But I think he also fires up his team. So even when he didn't play well at home against Minnesota they still found a way to win.

	19-12-2002 08:11									#5
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Julius Peppers?

You cannot be serious o_O

	19-12-2002 08:13									#6
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well without him Carolina may have won 0 games

I didn't vote for him but considering he is a pro-bowl candidate and a rookie of the year candidate I have to put him up. But with a 4 game suspension he might not get defensive rookie of the year even. Oh well.

	19-12-2002 08:21									#7
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Ricky Williams

	19-12-2002 08:34									#8
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Where would KC be without Priest Holmes?

ACK!

	19-12-2002 08:40									#9
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quote: Where would KC be without Priest Holmes?

In last place in their division?

	19-12-2002 08:43									#10
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lol

And Trent Green and Tony Gonzales aren't slouches either. That offense works as a team. They aren't dependent on their RB as much as San Diego and other teams. Although we will find out as Priest will most likely be out the next two weeks.

	19-12-2002 08:47									#11
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I won't vote for Favre because despite the fact that he is the whole GB team, without him they'd still win the division... Chi/Min/Det are THAT bad....

	19-12-2002 08:51									#12
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Hmmm... Harrison, Williams and Favre for me... can't decide.

Harrison, great reciever. Enough said.

Favre = Green Bay

Williams... lets see how he does in the next 2 games...

	19-12-2002 08:52									#13
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The sad thing is that, as bad as the NFC North is, the AFC North is even worse. Realignment sucks...

	19-12-2002 08:55									#14
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quote: Harrison, great rusher. Enough said.

Nice try, Kiwi, but this statement exposes you for the fraud you are. Harrison is a receiver, not a running back.

	19-12-2002 08:57									#15
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Erm.. I just edited the mistake BEFORE you posted... I got himmixed with Ricky Williams... how, I don't know.

	19-12-2002 08:58									#16
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I figured it was a mistake. That's what the smilie was for. Don't sweat it; I was just joking.

	19-12-2002 09:01									#17
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Okay, sorry I got a bit carried away

It was hard to decide, but I went with Harrison. Him and Manning have really kept the Colts ticking this season... Although I may eat my words if Williams beats the rushing record

	19-12-2002 09:03									#18
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Rushing record? Well it is possible. He has got 2 consecutive 200 yard games before... But I think they were against weak opponents.

	19-12-2002 09:20									#19
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Exactly Diss. It's unlikely, but if he does beat it, then he'd be my pick for the MVP.

	20-12-2002 10:36									#20
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bump for more votes.

It would be nice to have the option of changing your vote. So in the next 2 weeks people could change their vote if needed.

	20-12-2002 18:04									#21
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OK, the Pro Bowl results are in:

AFC

Wide receivers (4)
Marvin Harrison, IND
Eric Moulds, BUF
Jerry Rice, OAK
Hines Ward, PIT

Tackles (3)
Lincoln Kennedy, OAK
Jonathan Ogden, BAL
Willie Roaf, KC

Guards (3)
Ruben Brown, BUF
Alan Faneca, PIT
Will Shields, KC

Centers (2)
Kevin Mawae, NYJ
Barrett Robbins, OAK

Tight ends (2)
Tony Gonzalez, KC
Todd Heap, BAL

Quarterbacks (3)
Drew Bledsoe, BUF
Rich Gannon, OAK
Peyton Manning, IND

Running backs (3)
Priest Holmes, KC
LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
Ricky Williams, MIA

Fullback (1)
Lorenzo Neal, CIN


Defensive ends (3)
John Abraham, NYJ
Trevor Pryce, DEN
Jason Taylor, MIA

Interior linemen (3)
Tim Bowens, MIA
Richard Seymour, NE
Gary Walker, HOU

Outside linebackers (3)
Peter Boulware, BAL
Joey Porter, PIT
Junior Seau, SD

Inside linebackers (2)
Zach Thomas, MIA
Al Wilson, DEN

Cornerbacks (3)
Aaron Glenn, HOU
Ty Law, NE
Patrick Surtain, MIA

Strong safeties (1)
Lawyer Milloy, NE

Free safety (2)
Brock Marion, MIA
Rod Woodson, OAK


Punter
Chris Hanson, JAC

Placekicker
Adam Vinatieri, NE

Kick return specialist
Dante Hall, KC

Special teamer
Larry Izzo, NE

	20-12-2002 18:06									#22
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I would rather have had Brady in the Pro Bowl instead of "Goose"

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ooh gotta go. I'll check those out later.

	21-12-2002 01:22									#24
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It's a good time for the vote.
The last 2 weeks of the season mean nothing to many teams with players involved. I.E. Priest Holmes.

My vote is Ricky Williams.

	21-12-2002 12:24									#25
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OK who voted for Corey Dillon

I guess you can say he helped them win their 1 victory this season

	29-12-2002 23:46									#26
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bump for the last week of the season

	30-12-2002 00:38									#27
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It's gotta be Favre... which is painful because I'm a Bears fan...

2nd MVP... Ricky Williams... rushing leader, and backbone of Miami's offense
3rd MVP... Marvin Harrison... he's broken a lot of individual records this season, and as Mannings best option, its safe to say the Colts would be nowhere without him.

	30-12-2002 12:27									#28
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I think I voted for Ricky Williams, but considering the Dolphins didn't make the playoffs.

I'm going back to Rich Gannon. Granted he didn't have to do much saturday because of the rain. Their running game took over then.

Chad Penington is a close second. I don't think I have him on the list . Although I felt Curits Martin was very important, he allowed Chad to do what he did this season.

	02-01-2003 00:23									#29
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Rich Gannon is the official NFL Season MVP with nineteen votes. Brett Favre is second with fifteen votes, and Steve McNair is third with eleven votes.

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	02-01-2003 01:04									#30
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I'm going to make the last post in this thread, and no one can stop me. I think I have the right to make the last post in a thread.