19-12-2002 18:16									#1
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Chirac tells French to be more like the British

quote: The “civility” of the British motorist was held up as the ideal yesterday as President Chirac’s Government embarked on a campaign to force France to abandon a century of lethal driving habits. “To summarise, we should drive more like les anglais,” a state official said

I love this bit:

quote: On Tuesday, TF1, the main commercial TV channel, broadcast a report on British motoring manners. “We will show you that British drivers even stop for pedestrians at crossings, something we do not do,”

	19-12-2002 18:23									#2
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Good for Chirac, its nice to see European nations looking at each other and discovering there are things done better elsewhere .. instead of poking fun at past failings..

I'll make you a deal Chirac, you can run our railways (and pay for them , we'll teach you how to drive !!

	19-12-2002 18:31									#3
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Definitely, definitely.

	19-12-2002 18:36									#4
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Austria can't even get a decent stereotype.

	20-12-2002 00:29									#5
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Should be "unblemished wartime record" of an Austrian.

	20-12-2002 00:31									#6
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I dont get this "flexible as a swede" stereotype...?


what do they mean?

i keep looking at the girl and my mind goes to some sort of dubious porn inuendo


are the swedes always booked up?

	20-12-2002 00:53									#7
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I'm guessing it means that the Swedes are stubborn.

	20-12-2002 01:08									#8
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Flexible as a Swede:

They were quite flexible during WW2...

Letting German troops pass through their territory, AND accepting Jewish and Norwegian refugees (not all).

	20-12-2002 01:09									#9
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it also means they can massage you with their feet while writng their diary or whatever

	20-12-2002 01:12									#10
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i think its not a diary but a schedule book and that shes cheking her appointments.

i doubt an EU thing would have ANY referance to WW2

	20-12-2002 01:14									#11
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So which country is going to give Chirac protection from the French populace?

	20-12-2002 01:22									#12
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when EU expands, what's the slovenian or cypriotic stereotypes going to be? Famous as a slovenian, oh that's already taken.

I saw the same postcard (that's what it is?) with the NATO countries but I can't remember the American (humble?) or Norwegian (sober?) stereotypes. I definately can't remember the Canadian or Icelandic ones

quote: i doubt an EU thing would have ANY referance to WW2

maybe not but I still think it has something to do with neutrality. because swedes aren't especially flexible in other matters

	20-12-2002 01:25									#13
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-when EU expands, what's the slovenian or cypriotic stereotypes going to be?


i dont know.

and what about slovakia
or latvia and the baltic countries for example?

noone knows anything about them except probably their close neighboors

	20-12-2002 01:29									#14
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The French should be more German
How can Chirac tell something good about our millenia-long English enemy ? Our only concern should be to roadkill as many Brits as we can, to avenge Joan of Arc !

	20-12-2002 01:34									#15
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When i was in London,....

These cab drivers are crazy man... they don't stop, even if you cross a zebra-crossing!! (well the uk- version of it i mean)

Well i nearly got killed there so ... don't go to the british!! learn from the Belgians!!

(that's a joke, my ******* country is now full of this accident stuff.. according to the government, 1400 deaths a year in car accidents is too much... yea right, if you look at how we drive (most of the victims are were drunk as hell) no wonder!! anyway while millions of ppl in Ethiopia are facing starvation, we're trying to reduce that number by making fking laws so that we have to drive even slower, which causes more "embouteillages" so ppl get even more frustrated... (and then drive more aggressively as a result!)

	20-12-2002 01:41									#16
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bruxelles is drivers heaven
athens is drivers hell

	20-12-2002 01:41									#17
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Well, you haven't experienced Caďro yet....

That's anybody's hell

	20-12-2002 01:42									#18
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Nope but ive heard stories!

	20-12-2002 01:42									#19
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We do have the safest roads...apparently. But I look at the general driving ability on the road and I am completely baffled as to how we have this great reputation

	20-12-2002 01:48									#20
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The Brits are very surprising... Would you expect them to have one of the best education system in the EU ?

	20-12-2002 01:58									#21
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Now there is another one I just don't believe...walk around my home city, you would be amazed how stupid people are. But my city is the worst in the country for that so it probably isn't a fair example...

	20-12-2002 02:15									#22
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 bruxelles is drivers heaven athens is drivers hell

any part of greece is hell period.

	20-12-2002 02:22									#23
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 bruxelles is drivers heaven

Especially if driving a Panzer

	20-12-2002 17:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus When i was in London,.... These cab drivers are crazy man... they don't stop, even if you cross a zebra-crossing!! (well the uk- version of it i mean)

Cab drivers will stop if they have a fare-paying passenger. Knocks the meter up a bit.

	20-12-2002 17:12									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Especially if driving a Panzer

	20-12-2002 17:39									#26
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Driving, in London .. Its absolutly nothing like driving anywhere else in the UK.. Its not just the traffic, its the rushing for a parking space, the 1 way streets everybody gets lost on etc ... I find driving up here in Newcastle to be a much more relaxed affair.

We all have things were terrible at, and things we excell in, Im pleased Mr Chirac has noticed that, I wish other European leaders would also.

	20-12-2002 17:42									#27
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i'd certaintly wished our gov would but there's no chance it would have ANY effect to go tell the greeks they should be more like the brits when driving

only big fines can change attitudes at this point i think.


there's an example in yugoslavia about this (which apparently had as a dreadful driving code as we have)


really saying to someone you "should be like someone else" is laughable 'cause it doesnt have any effect

	20-12-2002 17:44									#28
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True enough, I think its better to simply say you think there's something to learn from the way the brits drive (eg) .. The greatest strength of the EU is that we are all so unique, not that were all the same.

	20-12-2002 17:53									#29
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maybe it was more of a "shock treatment" because of the "antagonistic" relation of uk-france

an equivalant would be to tell us that the turks drive better...

but it would still have no effect IMO


i'm all for big fines and guargantuan posters showing bloody car accident scenes

(not really but at this point some kind of "persuasion" would be good)

	20-12-2002 21:48									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The Viceroy Driving, in London .. Its absolutly nothing like driving anywhere else in the UK.. Its not just the traffic, its the rushing for a parking space, the 1 way streets everybody gets lost on etc ... I find driving up here in Newcastle to be a much more relaxed affair. We all have things were terrible at, and things we excell in, Im pleased Mr Chirac has noticed that, I wish other European leaders would also.

Have you ever driven in Leeds? Now that place is a complete bastard to drive in Birmingham is bad too...