26-01-2001 13:02									#1
	AI Builds Cities Too Closely! Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Everyone:

I've recently created some customized maps and have been playing on them. It didn't take me long to realize that the AI has a habit of building its cities right next to each other w/o the proper spacing — 100 percent so w/other AI civilizations.

Land is plentiful and the squares are quite nice, if I do say so myself. But it is really irritating to discover these AI cities so close together (usually from trading maps). It just doesn't look "natural," so to speak. So I've taken to destroying the city's defenders, putting barbs in, then wiping the city from existence w/my own units. Afterwards, I "salt" the soil by turning it into a glacier square in an effort to prevent a repeat on that spot.

This is really annoying and has me seriously considering going back to my Earth maps. Only on very rare occasions do I ever have trouble w/"too close" cities on those maps. Usually when the Celts are colonizing and the French or Germans are also in the game. Or, once in a while, when Japan is colonizing and China happens to be in the game. The fact remains, however, that "too close" cities are an extreme rarity for me on the Earth maps, but almost too damn common on the customized "natural" maps.

**sigh**

CYBERAmazon

	26-01-2001 14:59									#2
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What do you mean by 'too close' it strikes me that we may all have very different interpretations of this expression - ie DaveV might be thinking 'adjacent'

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	27-01-2001 05:06									#5
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the ai likes it's cities about three squares apart.... ever notice the patern in a large area of grasslands on a blank map. Its reminiscent of the trade special and hut patern

It also likes it's cities in groups of threes.... like triangles

	27-01-2001 05:38									#6
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	27-01-2001 06:13									#7
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War4Ever:

Yep, I've noticed those patterns. I don't have a problem with them, either, because the city environs don't overlap as much as indicated in my No.1 in the above "graphic" post.

CYBERAmazon

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Scouse Gits:

Scousy! Stop being a scoundrel! I'm in serious pain here! Serious, I tell you!

CYBERAmazon

	27-01-2001 07:11									#8
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CYBERAmazon... i notice the early cities are usually closer together than the later ones as well. What annoys me more is the ai's lack of judgement on terrain... irrigation.... city squares to use etc.... i cannot play this game anylonger unless it is mp or i am trying a new strat..... the ai simply is too dumb