25-02-2003 22:14									#331
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Soviet tanks were generally reliable, more so than many of the later German types.

	26-02-2003 00:20									#332
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Pap, here is a Jagdtiger.....

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	26-02-2003 04:17									#333
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Here is the same JagdTiger with a pintle mounted machine gun.

	26-02-2003 04:18									#334
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oops Well you get the general idea. It has been kinda discoloured when I saves as JPEG

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	26-02-2003 05:01									#335
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quote: Originally posted by Pap1723 Can someone make a Jagdpanzer VI Jagdtiger by any chance? There has been one already on this thread, but it isn't really in Nemo format.

I thought the ones you and Scott made were pretty good. I liked them

	26-02-2003 09:36									#336
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Wow, I was not thinking straight!!

Those are great guys and I am going to use them in my scenario, but what if I told you I was looking for a Sturmmorser Sturmtiger?

Sorry about the confusion, but I know there hasn't been one made yet that I saw.

So to clarify, Sturmorser Sturmtiger...

Pap

	26-02-2003 16:46									#337
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I think this is the unit that Pap was thinking of. I found it on the net and posted a while back. It is kinda nemo-esque although it is too small and the colours are wrong. Sturmmorser Tiger:-

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	26-02-2003 23:59									#338
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Yeah, that is the one I saw, I was wondering if anyone could edit a Jagdtiger and turn it into a Sturmmorser Strumtiger or to even start from scratch. I tried for about 2 hours I just couldn't get the front to look right and I couldn't get the gun how i wanted it.

Pap

	27-02-2003 02:08									#339
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We´re talking about some 38cm RW61 auf Sturmmörser Tiger? If you need any specifications, tell me. I´m sure to get more info than fairline ....

	27-02-2003 02:16									#340
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quote: 44.8 km/h for the Panther G

quote: Same as Panther G for Jagdpanther

well, I found:

(1) Jagdpanther

max. Speed: 46 kmph
Speed (on road): 25 kmph
Speed (cross-country): 15 kmph

Range (on road): 160 km
Range (cross-country): 80 km

(2) PzKpfw VI Ausf B Tiger II/Königstiger

max. Speed: 41,5 kmph
Speed (on road): 38 kmph
Speed (cross-country): 15-20 kmph

Range: (on road): 170 km
Range (cross-country): 120 km

If anyone needs more info just ask ME

	27-02-2003 02:35									#341
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quote: If you need any specifications, tell me. I´m sure to get more info than fairline ....

rubbish My tank book is all powerful:

The chassis numbers for the Jagpanther were 300001 - 300392. It used a SflZFf5 gunsight and it had a Maybach HL230P30 engine. Its radio was an FuG5 + FuG2. I don't know what any of this means, but it impresses the hell out of me.

I rest my (very sad) case

	27-02-2003 02:35									#342
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edit: double post

	27-02-2003 03:46									#343
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Almighty book gods, what was the earliest SP artillery used by the Germans, not the sIG IB 33 because there was only 30 or so made, but other then taht, I'm wondering like in the French campaign, etc.

Pap

	27-02-2003 13:25									#344
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quote: rubbish My tank book is all powerful:

something to add:

quote: It used a SflZFf5 gunsight

- Primary weapon: 8.8cm Pjk. 43/3 L/71
- Ammunition: 60 grenades
- Gun sight: 'Sfl.Z.F.1a' 5x, 8°
- Elevation: -8° - +14°
- Traverse: 11° both sides
- Firing height: 1.96m 7.92mm MG-34
- Secondary weapon(s):
9mm MP Nahverteidigungswaffe
1200x7.92mm
- Ammunition:
384x9mm
6xNebelkerzen & 10x2.6cm Spgr.

quote: it had a Maybach HL230P30 engine

- Engine: Maybach HL230 P30 V-12 water cooled 23.1 liter gasoline
- Horsepowers: 600 @ 2500rpm
- Transmission ZF AK 7-200

quote: Almighty book gods, what was the earliest SP artillery used by the Germans, not the sIG IB 33 because there was only 30 or so made, but other then taht, I'm wondering like in the French campaign, etc.

In 1927, Germans designed two self-propelled guns based on fully tracked tractors. First was 3.7cm WD Schlepper 25PS, which was a lightly armored 25hp WD tractor with pedestal mounted 37mm PaK L/45 gun. Second was 7.7cm WD Schlepper 50PS, which was 50hp Hanomag tractor with pedestal mounted 77mm K light gun. Both self-propelled guns were accepted into service with the German Army in 1927.


I hope this were the things you meant

	27-02-2003 17:34									#345
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quote: Originally posted by Pap1723 Almighty book gods, what was the earliest SP artillery used by the Germans, not the sIG IB 33 because there was only 30 or so made, but other then taht, I'm wondering like in the French campaign, etc. Pap

I think the sIG33 auf PzKw I ausf B (dontcha love those German vehicle names) was the only SP gun-proper in service in France in 1940. They were issued to the sIG (heavy gun) companies of 6 panzer divisions, so it would be appropriate to use them as a civ unit even though only 30-odd were in service. Tanelorn did a nice graphic for one.

	27-02-2003 17:43									#346
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse - Primary weapon: 8.8cm Pjk. 43/3 L/71 - Ammunition: 60 grenades

57 actually


You forgot to mention the driver's seats were made in the small hamlet of Bad Loosser from specially bred Frisian cows.

Apologies to none-tank-geeks for sustaining this 'my tank book is better than your tank book' nonsense

	27-02-2003 19:09									#347
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and also do not forget to emntion that nearly all ball bearings Germany had came from Schweinfurt.

	28-02-2003 00:41									#348
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Come on guys, own up. You haven't been getting these tid bits from one single book at all. You've been scowering the net, gathering all the information so that you can claim you're book is...er....the UBER book.

	28-02-2003 01:53									#349
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Hey, there might be more tank-geeks here than you think!
Who are you calling no tank-geek!! This is a ww2 post!
Meanwhile Greece is to receive its first Leopard 2's shortly... The Challenger got the best transmission ratings I think...

	28-02-2003 09:58									#350
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quote: Originally posted by tanelorn Hey, there might be more tank-geeks here than you think!

Blah. Artistically speaking I couldn't draw a StuG that didn't look like a Ford Model T7, but tank books? ... Oh wherefore art thou my beloved ultramega tank book?

	28-02-2003 10:56									#351
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Anyone have any luck with a Stummorser Sturmtiger?

Pap

	28-02-2003 11:02									#352
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Here is my terrible attempt...

As you can see i didn't get all that far, but so far the "turret" is right where I wanted it, but I can't get it to look right on the far side in the front, and I couldn't get the gun to look right at all, any help??

Someone can edit this one if it would be easier...

Pap

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	28-02-2003 16:26									#353
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Well, it's looking good so far Pap. Do you know though that only about 18 Sturmmorser Tigers were ever converted? So is anybody really gonna use them in a scenario?

	28-02-2003 16:32									#354
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I realize this Caspian, but it is in my scenario and it costs a heck of a lot, so the player could really only build it if he has a lot of resources available.

Pap

	28-02-2003 16:36									#355
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Kewl. These weapons were produced after Stalingrad for city fighting. However, by that time the German need for them was gone. I guess a good German player may do better and have a use.

	28-02-2003 16:39									#356
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Another possibility would be to combine the existance of the Sturmtiger with a special event. I did it in my scenario with the Tiger II. The Tiger II cannot be build by the player but a certain event has to occur to get this unit.

	28-02-2003 16:41									#357
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Well, in reality all of the Sturmmorsers were converted from battle damaged Tigers. Maybe you can have them created if a Tiger is destroyed. Possibly in one or two event files until the player can produce them themselves. These first examples could be the converted Tigers and once you have discovered the tech, the factories could be building them from scratch.

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	01-03-2003 02:35									#358
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Pap: try making the top of the tank a darker shade of gray, the the far side wont contrast so much.

	01-03-2003 02:36									#359
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Edit: Eeech, double post.

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	02-03-2003 21:55									#360
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quote: Originally posted by Caspian Come on guys, own up. You haven't been getting these tid bits from one single book at all. You've been scowering the net, gathering all the information so that you can claim you're book is...er....the UBER book.

Perish the thought, Caspian

OK, tank freaks, buy this book:
Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two by Chamberlaine and Doyle

It's excellent bedtime reading for all tank-spotter anoraks and other semi-autistics.