23-02-2005 16:01									#2041
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It always interested me how the USA had those huge stars on the hulls of their WW2 tanks!

I can't help thinking it must have made a Panzer gunner's job that bit easier!

	23-02-2005 16:35									#2042
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Well ... I think thatīs basically the same with those "Balkenkreuzen" on the German tanks ...

IIRC, the Germans initially used only-white crosses to make it easier for the Luftwaffe pilots to distinguish them from enemy vehicles ... but those white crosses made the Polish anti-tank gunners quite happy and so the Germans painted most of those crosses black ...

	23-02-2005 16:37									#2043
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Oh, btw, I edited myself a M4 Sherman to some kind of M12/40 GMC ... rather pathetic effort ...

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	23-02-2005 16:48									#2044
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Nice job -

	23-02-2005 18:55									#2045
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse rather pathetic effort ...

By no means, that is a great unit.

	23-02-2005 19:56									#2046
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I donīt know ... that gun looks a bit odd ...

	23-02-2005 20:59									#2047
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse I donīt know ... that gun looks a bit odd ...

mabe try to tweak the tip of it,

	23-02-2005 23:47									#2048
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An M3 Stuart for ToT.

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	24-02-2005 00:24									#2049
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I think i'm gonna faint!
The BEST M3 EVER MADE!!
if it looks that good as a gif, then i can't wait to see the bmp version

	24-02-2005 01:48									#2050
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Breathtaking!

	24-02-2005 03:07									#2051
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Iīd like to second the two posters above me ... but: where is the *.png or *.bmp file for ToT, Gareth?

I mean ... I do not want the 256 colours edition ... I want the 24 million colours edition

	24-02-2005 07:44									#2052
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Anyone made really good units of these?
i alredy have the basic one but these are cool

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	24-02-2005 13:51									#2053
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quote: Originally posted by fairline An M3 Stuart for ToT.

	24-02-2005 14:34									#2054
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse Iīd like to second the two posters above me ... but: where is the *.png or *.bmp file for ToT, Gareth? I mean ... I do not want the 256 colours edition ... I want the 24 million colours edition

Thanks all. Jim: if you check this gif you'll see I've only used 164 (not 24 million!) of the possible colours available in a 256-colour gif; this means I have lost no colours or definition by saving the bmp original to a gif. Obviously a set of different coloured units would use up more than 256 colours, so check before saving a bmp as a gif. You'll also notice I HAVEN'T loaded the civ2 palette which certainly would reduce the detail / f-up the colours of the original bmp. The only reason I posted a gif was that png's are darkened by IE as explained by Catfish (and I've lost the gamma-correction-thingy tool to get over this), and bmp's aren't displayed by the forum.

As a sidemote to Typhoon: I really like your compilation of units for Patine's scenario (particularly the Japanese infantry!), but I suspect you have run into the png problem as well as it all looks a tad dark.

Here are slightly tweaked M3 Stuart and the later M5 Stuart as shown in the Eivind photo on the previous page:

	24-02-2005 14:45									#2055
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Well, as I am with you about that colour thing I have to admit I am using Firefox, and - who would have guessed that - there does not seem to be a problem with too dark *.png files hereabouts ...

Anyway, thank you for that marvellous tank, Gareth!

Btw, do you have a M12/40 GMC like the opne I posted above that really looks like such a gun motor carriage?

	24-02-2005 15:22									#2056
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Oh, I somewhere had a fairline-style P-38 ... but I cannot find it. Could someone help me out and re-post it here?

Thanks in advance!

	24-02-2005 15:48									#2057
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If this works . . . .

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	24-02-2005 16:22									#2058
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Thanks a lot! Thatīs awesome

	24-02-2005 16:38									#2059
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Thank you, Gareth, for such an amazing piece of art. This isn't exactly 24 million colours, but I think it has to be done for us MGE buffs still around

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	24-02-2005 17:29									#2060
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Excellent

Btw, Gareth: do you have a feldgrau version of the Wespe and the 88mm Flak/Pak lying around? ToT preferrably ...

	24-02-2005 23:11									#2061
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Nice work, Fairline! -

	24-02-2005 23:53									#2062
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Some Nakajima Kikka's, basicly a recoloured version of fairlines me-262

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	25-02-2005 07:14									#2063
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despite how it may appear, no drugs were used in the making of this tank,
Behold!
THE SHERMAN COLOSSUS!

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	25-02-2005 12:36									#2064
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Holy , that thing's so top heavy one wonders why it hasn't toppled over by now.

A repeat of Erika's earlier statement: Some Nakajima Kikka's, basicly a recoloured version of fairlines me-262

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	25-02-2005 12:47									#2065
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The Kikka was designed as an attack bomber, and only two were finished by the end of the war. While it was based closely on the Me-262, the exact plans were lost enroute from Germany. So it was somewhat different, as this pic demonstrates.

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	25-02-2005 12:47									#2066
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edit: dp

	25-02-2005 12:48									#2067
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quote: Originally posted by fairline As a sidemote to Typhoon: I really like your compilation of units for Patine's scenario (particularly the Japanese infantry!), but I suspect you have run into the png problem as well as it all looks a tad dark.

Before begining, I must pay more tribute to your Stuarts:











Done.

Thank you for the comment on the infantry, but the shading was Curt's work, and I merely lifted it. Credit should go to him.

Regarding the .png problem, I'm afraid that the units look dark because they ARE dark. Like Steph I'm also using Firefox as my browser, and they look exactly like that. It could just be my eyes, though.

Bummer about the tutorial . I think its somewhere in this particular thread, around the time you started blessing us with your fantastic TOT coloured units. Maybe we could ask the mods to scrounge it up and move it to the Graphics Workshop where it will be more accessible.

I wonder though- would saving under IE result in the saved png becoming darker? If so, then it would of course be best to use .bmps when handling TOT units. One minor nag though- they don't show up in attachements as you have mentioned.

	25-02-2005 12:57									#2068
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@ Tec

Couldn't be more right. A common misconception is that the Kikka is an almost 1 for 1 copy for the Me 262 Schwalbe. There a several distinct differences that would be obvious to the discerning observer: For instance, a smaller fuselage that did not taper towards the tail. Internally it was only half the empty weight of the Me 262, had folding wings for storage aboard aircraft carriers and conealment in caves. No guns, and the engines were scaled down versions of the BMW-003.

	25-02-2005 16:40									#2069
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Hereīs the link to the Graphics Workshop: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...aphics+workshop

	25-02-2005 22:03									#2070
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quote: Originally posted by typhoon Thank you for the comment on the infantry, but the shading was Curt's work, and I merely lifted it. Credit should go to him.

Credit where it's due - they're a great mod

Enough with the bow-down smilies BTW

quote: Regarding the .png problem, I'm afraid that the units look dark because they ARE dark. Like Steph I'm also using Firefox as my browser, and they look exactly like that. It could just be my eyes, though. Bummer about the tutorial . I think its somewhere in this particular thread, around the time you started blessing us with your fantastic TOT coloured units. Maybe we could ask the mods to scrounge it up and move it to the Graphics Workshop where it will be more accessible. I wonder though- would saving under IE result in the saved png becoming darker? If so, then it would of course be best to use .bmps when handling TOT units. One minor nag though- they don't show up in attachements as you have mentioned.

That's exactly the problem; I use IE (stupidly!) and I suspect that most others do too. IE darkens the units further; if I click and save your png it will be 10-15% darker than your original. There is a utility for stripping the gamma-correction thingy (Catfish, help: I don't know what I'm talking about ) from png's so that IE displays them correctly. I'll tral back through the thread.