20-12-2002 09:03									#1
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Players
Hot_Enamel - Arabia
jshelr - Egypt
Flandrien - China
lmtoops - Carthage

The above is the turn order as well.

Settings
Name of the game: Double or Nothing
Game type: Play by Email
Game mode: Standard
Turn timer: None
World size: Standard
Barbarian activity: No Barbarians
Land Mass: Pangaea
Water Coverage: 60%
Climate: Wet
Temperature: Warm
Age: 5 billion
Difficulty level: I specified Regent but the game says Chieften when you load the SAV...
Game limits: None
Victory conditions: Domination, Space Race, Diplomatic, Conquest, Cultural (in other words, all).
Allow civ specific abilities: Yes
Culturally linked start loc.: Yes
Respawn AI: No
Preserve random seed: Yes
Accelerated production: Yes
Elimination: No
Regicide: No
Mass regicide: No
Victory point locations: No
Capture the princess: No
Allow cultural conversions: Yes

Admin password: 2oder0

Last edited by delmar on 03-02-2003 at 08:26

	20-12-2002 14:14									#2
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Arabia has received the file from delmar.

Tries to figure out how he is ever going to remember the password that delmar has given him.

And has forwarded the game to Egypt. (cc delmar)

Is there any AI in this game ? Or all human players ?

	20-12-2002 14:25									#3
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Dont bother answering..I checked the previous thread.

Damn... no goodie huts !! and I chose an expansionist civ.

delmar...your random password is fine

And "no" to AI.

I guess I should of checked the thread more often.

	20-12-2002 16:53									#4
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Please remember, every turn should be sent to our moderator as well, so he can keep track of the game.

	20-12-2002 18:07									#5
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Sent earlier, just wanted to benchmark the thread. Do we post each turn here or is sending it to Delmar enough?

	20-12-2002 22:35									#6
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I don't mean to be too negative, but this does not look like accellerated production.
Unless I am the only one without accellerated production ?

Anyway, first turn on it's way to lmtoops.

	20-12-2002 22:45									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Flandrien I don't mean to be too negative, but this does not look like accellerated production. Unless I am the only one without accellerated production ? Anyway, first turn on it's way to lmtoops.

I think this is a bug. I am not only sure that I selected it when I set up the game, but I also built a city, after I created the first SAV file (that I sent to Enamel), just to confirm that accelerated production was on (it was).

Now I loaded the SAVs that you sent me so far, and it is indeed off.

However, if I go to Multiplayer, then click "Host" and then select "Load Game" under Game Mode, and load the SAV files from there, then I do get accelerated production.

As Spencer says, our beta testing continues...

PS: I almost suggested that you replay the first turn, making sure that everyone loads the game through the multiplayer screen, but I think it is not necessary. It is enough if you load the game through multiplayer from now on, because acc.prod. means you need less shields, not that you produce more.

	21-12-2002 01:34									#8
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Sometimes I think my brain just turns off

I will be away from my computer, 12/21 - 12/28 (Vacation). Delmar - Can you play my turns?

I will set up the game as I want it, so you only have to do minimal moves. Just in case my first unit is built, I will PM you on what to do with it.

If you can't, then I will find a substitute player.

	21-12-2002 02:30									#9
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I tested and reloaded the first sav sent to me
Using the multiplayer load...accelerated production is off
And my build speeds are the same.

having accel prod off doesnt bother me.
Just as long as it is off for everyone.

	21-12-2002 04:09									#10
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I emailed the game to Hot_E (sounds like a porn star or a rapper).



Accelerated Production was OFF

In any case, I'm OK with no accel. production.

	21-12-2002 04:45									#11
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More thoughts are floating to the top of my head (That head banging really works!!).

I will be able to access the internet and email infrequently (maybe every 2 days). I just can't play.

	21-12-2002 06:08									#12
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Game forwarded to Egypt

And yes... I am a porn star

	21-12-2002 08:21									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel I tested and reloaded the first sav sent to me Using the multiplayer load...accelerated production is off And my build speeds are the same.

Right. The acceleration production (and I guess any other) setting will be whatever you set before you load the game. My setting was acc.prod. on (remainder from the original game setup), so when I loaded the game from the multiplayer screen, it became accelerated. If however I turn it off first, it will be off in the game as well.

In other words, the SAV file doesn't contain this information.

I never really bothered to get upset about these bugs but this multiplayer aspect begins to throw me over that certain limit. Anyway, I will spare the Firaxis bashing for now.

quote: having accel prod off doesnt bother me. Just as long as it is off for everyone.

I guess it's just like with all the other shortcomings that can be misused: play fair and hope that the others will do the same.

Well, as a moderator, I guess I could check on you guys from time to time...

	21-12-2002 08:29									#14
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quote: Originally posted by lmtoops I will be away from my computer, 12/21 - 12/28 (Vacation). Delmar - Can you play my turns?

Yes.

	21-12-2002 11:49									#15
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quote: Right. The acceleration production (and I guess any other) setting will be whatever you set before you load the game. My setting was acc.prod. on (remainder from the original game setup), so when I loaded the game from the multiplayer screen, it became accelerated. If however I turn it off first, it will be off in the game as well. In other words, the SAV file doesn't contain this information.

Damn !!!!!!!!!!!

I checked... And you are right.

Thats a serious bug !!

Just to confirm, I am playing with accelerated production off....is everyone else doing the same ?

	21-12-2002 15:53									#16
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I too propose each plays with accelerated production off.
I hope everyone plays on the same difficulty level ?

Somehow I knew we would be needing an independent moderator.
I just did not expect it to be this soon.

	21-12-2002 17:27									#17
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Sent, I think

I'm actually going to have to get organized with several games going on at once now.

	22-12-2002 02:15									#18
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This was a great day for the Zedong family !
They have been blessed with a healthy boy, named Mao.
Little Mao (or LMAO as he soon will be called) has a bright future before him.


turn sent to lmtoops.

	22-12-2002 04:54									#19
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Delmar is to play for lmtoops.

Did you CC the game to him ?

	22-12-2002 05:12									#20
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I played lmtoops turn and sent it to Enamel.

	22-12-2002 06:21									#21
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Sent to Egpyt

	22-12-2002 16:10									#22
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Sent a bit earlier amid a bout of insomnia. Why is it when you get a few days off suddenly you can't sleep in?

	23-12-2002 00:16									#23
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Must be all the excitement of having a few days off.


(turn sent)

	23-12-2002 00:20									#24
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Or the sense of guilt that you are not working...



3850BC sent on behalf of lmtoops.

	23-12-2002 13:33									#25
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doubleornothing3850BCtoEgypt

	23-12-2002 16:37									#26
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sent

	24-12-2002 18:31									#27
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3800BC sent to Enamel on behalf of lmtoops.

	25-12-2002 12:58									#28
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And on Christmas Day in Australia ... The file is sent on to Egypt

	25-12-2002 17:05									#29
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Where it is processed and sent onward......Happy Holiday

	26-12-2002 02:08									#30
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3750BC sent to Enamel on behalf of lmtoops.