20-12-2002 17:56									#1
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Should I get an external CD-R for my laptop, or an X-box?

I can't decide and it's making my head hurt.

	20-12-2002 17:58									#2
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How many Mp3s do you have?

	20-12-2002 17:59									#3
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Too many - around 2 or 3 gigs worth.

	20-12-2002 18:00									#4
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What do you want to do with it, as there is a lot of difference between the two, and CD-R should be much cheaper if it serves your purpose.

	20-12-2002 18:02									#5
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Well I have a lot of MP3 and WMA files - as well as South Park episodes which I could burn if I got a CD-R.

But I can get an X-box with 2 games for just £9 more.

At the moment I'm thinking X-box...

	20-12-2002 18:02									#6
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Isn't external CD-R much cheaper? Besides.. you need games and all to use xbox, and the cost too much. So you'd need CD-R anyway to burn new games to xbox.
At the cost of one xbox game, you can get cd-r, yes?
Get BOTH!

	20-12-2002 18:02									#7
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Do you also have a desktop except for the laptop? (for games)

if yes I'd say buy the cd-r and start burning the mp3s

if not and you want to play games, x-box


i recently got a cd-r and i found it relatively useless except for my mp3s... which were fewer than yours
also it helps if you borrow a cd from someone

	20-12-2002 18:04									#8
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In my house there are 2 desktops - one is really old and crappy, the other is my brothers and his room is a biohazard area.

He does have a CD-R though...

	20-12-2002 18:12									#9
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I'd get the X-Box because in the future ALL computers will be able to burn cds AT LEAST! If you got an external cd-r how long would you be able to use it for? honestly!

	20-12-2002 18:17									#10
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Cd-rs are dirt cheap now arent they?

i got one for like 120 euros...

works fine

but you can use your brothers cd-r and get the x-box anyway.

all you need is a cable to connect the 2 PCs.

for more info i refer you to Asher!

	20-12-2002 18:47									#11
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We already can connect the pcs, all the terminals in our house are networked.

X-box it is then. Thanks guys

	20-12-2002 18:52									#12
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Normally I would recommend a internal CD-R as they go as low as $45 US ($40 Euros). But since you are asking for external ones I will direct you to a site:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...property&DEPA=1

I suggest getting the $199 US drive there... it actually has two drives, making it very useful.

Or if that is not what you are looking for, I suggest getting that Iomega once it gets back in stock.

Edit: Here is a link for external Iomega drives:

http://direct.mwave.com/mwave/ProdC...DRW-IOMEGA.hmx?

	20-12-2002 18:56									#13
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Go for the X-Box.

	21-12-2002 11:10									#14
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Why buy just a cd-r when for £9 more, you can get both?

Its a no-brainer. X Box.

	21-12-2002 13:03									#15
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You would have to be mentally defficient to get an external CD burner over the current Xbox deals in the UK.

	21-12-2002 13:05									#16
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since Asher is here

Does X-box have any good RPG's for it yet? I'm talking adult ones not kiddies stuff. By adult I don't mean nudity, just serious plot and violence and stuff.

	21-12-2002 13:07									#17
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I don't follow RPGs because I don't care for them.

There's games like Crimson Sea which are action-RPGs. Morrowind. And some others.

The Xbox is not an RPG console. If you want an RPG, you might as well pick up a D&D kit and a PS2

	21-12-2002 13:38									#18
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quote: Does X-box have any good RPG's for it yet?

No. There are only a handful in the works and they're more along the lines of PC RPG's than console ones. It's one of the reasons I'll be buying a PS2 instead of an Xbox. I love me some RPGs...

	21-12-2002 13:39									#19
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Gotta escape reality somehow eh Drake

	21-12-2002 13:44									#20
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quote: Gotta escape reality somehow eh Drake

Is that your idea of wit?

	21-12-2002 13:51									#21
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What do you think roleplaying games are for, Drake?

	21-12-2002 14:10									#22
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What are any videogames for, Asher? Are you playing Splinter Cell to hone your infiltration skills? All games are about escaping reality...

	21-12-2002 14:14									#23
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The games I prefer are about blowing **** up.

See: MechAssault.

'splosions are good.

	21-12-2002 14:15									#24
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quote: 'splosions are good.

See, even we can agree on something...

	21-12-2002 14:26									#25
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The vast majority of console RPGs suck royal ass.

Let's go collect things and watch CGI movies.

Wooohooo, sounds like fun, sign me up.

	21-12-2002 14:57									#26
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quote: The vast majority of console RPGs suck royal ass. Let's go collect things and watch CGI movies.

Not every console RPG is a CGI fest. I hate that style as well, but it is hardly the norm for non-Square RPG's. There have been some excellent console RPGs released in recent years, if you care to look for them. I doubt you do, however. It's easier to dismiss something you don't know about...

	21-12-2002 15:01									#27
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Zelda was okay, I don't understand the insane ratings they get though.

There are no doubt good console RPGs out there, it's just that all of the really popular ones these days tend to suck ass.

Square's in particular.

	22-12-2002 03:20									#28
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I'm also not fond of Square's RPGs. Just don't like the gameplay at all. However Baldur's Gate series is up there with my favourite games. The story is great and it's told within the game instead of through FMVs. That is why I hate games like MGS2.

It's not really about escaping reality, as my reality is great, I don't need to get away from it.

Most console RPGs are just press X on enemy and repeat thousands of times. It just gets dull fast and the story is usually linear.

	22-12-2002 04:13									#29
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quote: I'd get the X-Box because in the future ALL computers will be able to burn cds AT LEAST! If you got an external cd-r how long would you be able to use it for? honestly!

I don't believe that... CD-R getting standard?? noway, even a 3d card isn't standard at the moment (and you gotta have that to play games)

quote: Most console RPGs are just press X on enemy and repeat thousands of times. It just gets dull fast and the story is usually linear.

That's why i just luuuuuuve the Baldur's gate saga: Do whatever you want, there's tons of character classes, assignments, adventures, monsters, locations, discussion and hard boiled action,... it's just so damn good!

Though Morrowind is better for complete freedom, most other RPGs have a certain storyline you have to follow one way or another, but I know few that just depend on clicking the enemy and doing the same thing over and over again... But that's Pc, not console

quote: Gotta escape reality somehow eh Drake

It's not about escaping reality, it's about haing fun, whacking opponents, bribing, being a badass or being generous whenever you please, not to escape reality... reality is okay, why would i escape it

	22-12-2002 06:40									#30
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CD burners will certainly be standard pretty soon.

The Floppy Drive is biting the dust in 2003 officially, people need an easy physical medium to save to for portability...

CD burners are also pretty cheap to make now.