21-12-2002 04:09									#1
	Top ten favorite games (any platform, and of all time) Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

What are your top favorite games? Console games included. And it's of all time, so compare games to its contemporaries. Eg if you thought Civ3 wasn't a big enough improvement from Civ2, then you would probably put Civ2 higher.

Me:
1. Civilization II
2. HALO
3. Civilization III
4. Warcraft II
5. Civilization I
6. Empire Earth
7. Railroad Tycoon II
8. SimCity 2000
9. Black and White (Kind of a weird game in that I play for a month, uninstall for three, then play for another month, etc.)
10. Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2

SMAC, CTP, and CTP II would be on the list if I owned them, but I know that I like the Civ series better than I would like any of the above three. Hence I have never bought them.

Other note. Project Gotham for Xbox would be on the list if I had one more slot.

	21-12-2002 04:34									#2
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1. Morrowind
2. Civ II
3. Fallout 1
4. Baldur's Gate II
5. Planescape: Torment
6. Simcity 2000
7. Fallout 2
8. No One Lives Forever
9. Baldur's Gate I
10. Diablo II

	21-12-2002 04:42									#3
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Oh, and BTW, this has been bugging me a lot lately, and now I just can't stand it any more. What is Morrowind?

	21-12-2002 04:53									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior Oh, and BTW, this has been bugging me a lot lately, and now I just can't stand it any more. What is Morrowind?

Funny you should ask, it's an RPG made by, ready for this, BETHESDA Softworks. It's really quite indepth and addicting.


ACK!

	21-12-2002 05:39									#5
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1. The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past (SNES)
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES)
3. Crono Trigger (SNES)
4. Civilization II (PC)
5. Soul Calibur (DC)
6. Skies of Arcadia (DC)
7. Final Fantasy 4 (SNES)
8. Shenmue (DC)
9. Super Metroid (SNES)
10. Phantasy Star Online (DC)

Wow, that was hard. I had to leave off a ton of great games.

edit: I forgot all about Contra and Goldeneye! Damn it!

	21-12-2002 11:32									#6
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1. Pirates
2. Machiavelli, the Prince
3. Civ. I
4. Civ. II
5. Rollercoaster Tycoon
6. Thief II
7. Thief I
8. Sentinel Worlds I: Future Magic
9. Stunts
10. Warlords I

	21-12-2002 18:59									#7
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1. Shining Force 2
2. Diablo 2 lod
3. Civilization 3
4.Civilization 2
5. Super Mario 3
6. Super Mario 2
7. Shining Force 1
8.Goldeneye (sp??)
9. I dont know
10. I dont know

	21-12-2002 19:34									#8
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1. Age of Kings
2. Civilization II
3. Age of Conquerors
4. Civilization II MGE
5. Sim City 2000
6. Oregon Trail
7. RollerCoaster Tycoon Loopy Landscapes
8. Red Alert II
9. Carmen Sandiego
10. Civilization III

I could play these all forever. I only own 3 of them now, but ive owned all of them sometime back...

	21-12-2002 23:27									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior Oh, and BTW, this has been bugging me a lot lately, and now I just can't stand it any more. What is Morrowind?

I suggest you get the PC version, so you can play Tribunal XP and download my Mingapulco mod.

Visit the Edler Scroll's Website for more info.

My Top Ten List

01: AL|ENS v. Predator: Gold Edition
02: Morrowind/Tribunal
03: SW: Dark Forces
04: Quake III: Arena
05: Sam N' Max: Hit the Road
06: Total Annihilation: Core Contingancy
07: The Dig
08: Grim Fandango
09: E.V.O. The Search for Eden (SNES)
10: TIE Figher: Collector's CD-ROM

My Top Six Suckest Games of All Time

01: AL|ENS v. Predator 2
02: SW: Jedi Knight 2
03: NOLF
04: Mario Time Machine (SNES)
05: Mario Is Missing (SNES)
06: Basicly, anything that uses the Lith-Tech game engine sucks. Horrible horrible graphics.

	22-12-2002 03:21									#10
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: 06: Basicly, anything that uses the Lith-Tech game engine sucks. Horrible horrible graphics.

I thought the graphics in 'No One Lives Forever' (my #8 game) were pretty damn good! NOLF2 looks even better!

	22-12-2002 07:48									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: 06: Basicly, anything that uses the Lith-Tech game engine sucks. Horrible horrible graphics. I thought the graphics in 'No One Lives Forever' (my #8 game) were pretty damn good! NOLF2 looks even better!

The Lith-Tech is the suckest of all. First off, everything looks like a blurred canvas of oil paint colors (even on my friend's 128MB ATi video card (I think he has a 9700, I'll have to double check)). Flat, bitmap wires and the crumeist skybox.

The Quake engine is slowing turning into another Lith-Tech engine after I saw JK2.

	22-12-2002 08:17									#12
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Again, NOLF's graphics were pretty good. And JK2's graphics were EXCELLENT!

What are you looking at?

	22-12-2002 10:47									#13
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Hmm.

It's a toughie and I'm sure most people would disagree with me:

1. Halo (Xbox)
2. Civilization II (PC)
3. Goldeneye 007 (N64)
4. Splinter Cell (Xbox)
5. Quake II (PC)
6. Total Annihilation (PC)
7. Super Mario Brothers 3 (NES)
8. MotoGP (Xbox)
9. Star Control 2 (PC)
10. Diablo II (PC)
(11. Starcraft (PC))
(12. Master of Orion II (PC))
(13. MechAssault (Xbox))
(14. DOOM II (PC))
(15. MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries (PC))

	22-12-2002 10:54									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 The Lith-Tech is the suckest of all. First off, everything looks like a blurred canvas of oil paint colors (even on my friend's 128MB ATi video card (I think he has a 9700, I'll have to double check)). Flat, bitmap wires and the crumeist skybox. The Quake engine is slowing turning into another Lith-Tech engine after I saw JK2.

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about, man.

Color pallet has absolutely nothing to do with the Lith engine, but the art direction of the particular game...

I have NO idea what you mean by "flat, bitmap wires" but I'm sure you thought it sounded technical so you'd throw it in there. Are you talking about how some games implement things such as grates and wires as transparant textures rather than polygons? If so, again, this is an implementation issue with certain games -- Lithtech is more than capable of using real polygons for it, but that's slower (as it is in all engines).

I think the Lithtech engine is pretty good. Better than Q3:TA's engine these days. Inferior to the Unreal Warfare/UT2003 engines.

	22-12-2002 20:01									#15
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Listed in the order I have played them:

01. Master of Orion II [PC]
02. Alpha Centauri [PC]
03. Colonization [PC]
04. Hero's Quest III & IV [PC]
05. Doom I & II [PC]
06. Pirates [Commodore 64]
07. Boulder Dash I & II [Commodore 64]
08. Spy vs Spy [Commodore 64]
09. Asteroids [Atari 2600]
10. Donkey Kong [Arcade]

Honourable mentions:

Frogger [Arcade]
Pacman [Arcade]
Xevious [Arcade]
Commando [Arcade/Commodore 64]
Tetris
Double Dragon [Arcade]
Impossible Mission [Commodore 64]
Ghostbusters [Commodore 64]
Wizball [Commodore 64]
Super Mario Series [Nintendo]
Donkey Kong Country [SNES]
Space Quest Series [PC]
Civilization I & II [PC]
Simcity [PC]
Fallout II [PC]
Black & White [PC] - I have a similar experience to you with this game Jaguar Warrior. Such a beautiful looking game, but in the end the stupid creature AI becomes too annoying. The last game I played the dumb creature I had spent hours raising to be good kept hurling fireballs at my temple.
Age of Empires Series [PC]
The Sims [PC]
Halo [Xbox]

Worst:

Civilization III

Last edited by Bkeela on 22-12-2002 at 20:10

	22-12-2002 21:10									#16
	Suffering from ads?

Copy/paste:

1 - Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
2 - Heroes of Might and Magic II.
3 - Civilization I.
4 - Jagged Alliance.
5 - X-COM, part one: UFO - Enemy Unknown.
6 - Warlords II Deluxe.
7 - Homeworld.
8 - Master of Orion I.
9 - Heroes of Might and Magic IV.
10 - Jagged Alliance II.

All are PC-games... I am part of the 90's PC-generation... Always disliked the modern consoles,
older ones are the ones I haven't played...

	22-12-2002 23:35									#17
	Tired of ads?

quote: 3. Goldeneye 007 (N64)

Good game .

	22-12-2002 23:42									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

What Tuomerehu said and I'll spare you the copy/paste.

	23-12-2002 04:22									#19
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Similar taste to Tuomerehu, I think.

Main differences:
Love Nethack
Can't work out why people like JA.

	29-12-2002 12:10									#20
	Tired of ads?

1. Civ2 [PC]
2. Grand Theft Auto 3 [PS2]
3. Civ3 [PC]
4. Starcraft [PC]
5. Need for Speed [PC+PS2](just love cars)
6. Metal Gear Solid 2 [PS2]
7. SSXTricky [PS2]
8. Tekken Tag [PS2]
9. Halo [xbox]
10. Loderunner [Atari]

Contestors:
PC:
Alpha Centauri
Simcity
Quake III: Arena
Unreal Tournament
Consoles:
Dead to rights[xbox] (haven't played it enough)