21-12-2002 04:33									#1
	Better start locations in PTW ? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I've been starting a lot of random new games after I installed PTW, and I've been thrown some really good starting locations. By that I mean I get more rivers near my capital, or I get more vital resoures near my cities. Is it the game or am I beginning to appreciate my starting point more?

	21-12-2002 14:41									#2
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I think your just appreciatinig you starts more.

Either that, or you've just had a streak of luck. Those are always nice.

	21-12-2002 15:09									#3
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Me i've got a really bad starting point. Look at this screenshot, this is a old game of PTW 1.04!(Difficulty: Monarch)


If you look closely I was in big trouble, By luck I had the Mounted Warrior UU, the best early UU, to conquer some American city(light blue), and got some better land. My Vital Space.

Nice morning/night.... got to sleep!!!

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	22-12-2002 14:07									#4
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I modded my PtW to make gigantic maps. I currently only started 2 games with this settings, but both gave me incredible crapstarts that should normally be impossible (no early resource / luxury at all in my surroundings). Here's the start of my current game. Specs are : continents, wet / warm. After some sea exploration, it turned out I was completely isolated until I got the Lighthouse. I then became the great techwore between 2 contients, until the others were able to navigate on seas too.

I also discovered some other Civs on small islands who were even less lucky than me (I had the biggest of all small islands, and was connected by sea to continents, not completely isolated)

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	22-12-2002 14:42									#5
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I have just had my first week with PTW and I love it,but I have been getting loads of really bad starts. I played a few of them as the Celts to about 500bc and was getting hammered on regent by 3 or 4 other AI civs and could not find any iron anywhere.

Without those Gallic Swordsmen to give you a boost your a dead duck !
The only game Ive had success with is the one Im playing on now and Ive gone back to warlord. I was just starting to win games at monarch on a regular basis with 1.29 civ3 but PTW is much tougher IMO.

The only good start I have got yet is this warlord game but Ill go to regent in my next.

	22-12-2002 16:48									#6
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I had good and bad starts on civ3 1.29 and on PTW 1.14. The difference I have noticed (on standard maps anyway) is that the luxury resources seem to be more scattered in PTW. By that I mean there is still a cluster of most of a lux. resource but you seem to get more of an odd one or two of that resource at the other end of the same continent. It actually makes the early trading harder because the AI civs on the same continent as you already have one of your lux. resource.

	22-12-2002 21:39									#7
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Perhaps it is a bad habit, or maybe I'm getting too picky, but I'll go through several starting positions before I keep a game. Some I dismiss immediately, and some I'll play a few turns, looking for a luxury resource right near by. The last game I started, about a week ago, I went through seven sps, choosing to continue the game with the eighth. And glad I was to do that.