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OneFootInTheGrave is offline OneFootInTheGrave
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The US today dismissed as "a stunt" an Iraqi offer to admit CIA agents to help arms inspections, as scores of UN arms experts swooped on at least three sites near Baghdad.
Iraqi officials said a biological weapons team from the UN monitoring, verification and inspection commission (Unmovic) spent two hours at what the officials described as a closed baby milk plant in Abu Ghreib, 16 miles west of Baghdad.

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As the US rebuffed Iraq's latest offer, Baghdad unleashed a fresh wave of invective against the Bush administration. An Iraqi government newspaper said the US president, George Bush, was using lies to justify a war against Iraq.

"The administration of little Bush is launching a mad campaign based on lies and accusations in order to divert public attention from reality and find excuses for an aggression against Iraq," the ruling Baath party newspaper al-Thawra said in a front page editorial.
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Could it be that Saddam is telling the truth

Originally Saddam offered USA to let CIA inspect the country to find WOMD's http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Stor...,864782,00.html

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Baghdad fought back in the highly charged propaganda battle with the US and Britain yesterday by inviting its arch-enemy, the CIA, to enter Iraq and track down the country's elusive weapons of mass destruction.


It seems that Iraq does not pretend that they do not have any WOMD's or be so certain in themselves and be sure that even CIA can't find it, which I doubt.

Still how can US reject such a generous offer from Iraq. Send in the agents if the "axis of evil" invites you to.

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Blow them up. Blow them all up. Take all the oil. Screw France out of any oil contracts they have now with Iraq.

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Blow them up. Blow them all up. Take all the oil. Screw France out of any oil contracts they have now with Iraq.


Now that is a true patriot speaking

You forgot... screw Russia too

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no no. Russia is cool. We could split the oil with them... say 70/30 (it's the US doing all the work). Screw everyone else.

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Well that's a fair deal but the Brits earned something at least.. unless UK is anyway a US colony like Israel so that implies that we will get some oil too.

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hmmm... well... it really is the US doing all the work. I say 70/30 for Russia only because they still are somewhat of a world power. hmm... ok ok (haha) I was just being nice. NO oil for russia! Screw them too.

I do enjoy seeing Sadam running around trying anything and everything to stop a US attack. What's with the 'I'm sorry' to Kuwait??? That was almost hard to watch... even for Saddam.

The MWHC call on Persian Gulf war II. It's over in 4 hours. Let it be lesson to the rest of the world. China should be watching. I still say the US could take China in 12 hours (that's while we're taking Iraq).

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why would we undermine our own plan to uleash plan bomb-the-sh*t-out-of -them-and-topple-their-regime-and-get-cheap-oil?

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That's why the US looks silly to the rest of the world right now. Dubya and company wants to attack Iraq, but also wants to look justified.

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we're just doing this dance so the next time China or Russia want to pound on someone they will also have to go through the process. probably a good thing. so i dont think it's silly.

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By giving deals to other Security Council members, the US will get what they want.

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I think a better way if saying it is - by buying other Security Council members the US gets its way.

Oh BTW - you're just upset Ming because of all the thashings you've taken in the past from Savage!!

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Sep 1999
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That's why the US looks silly to the rest of the world right now. Dubya and company wants to attack Iraq, but also wants to look justified.
Well Baghdad did hand them the perfect excuse by lieing in thier decleration.

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Well Baghdad did hand them the perfect excuse by lieing in thier decleration.



Can you really say that?? Maybe i've missed something but i dont think i've seen anyone point anywhere and say that's where they are hiding something they should not have. perhaps the inspectors have already detected/found something that's banned but that has yet to be reported. I think maybe Saddam really does not have anything that's banned but so what now. blow him up!

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Too little too late im afraid Saddam....

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It will all come crashing down in 30 to 40 years... no empire can survive. America has chosen to symbolise, represent and be all that is will soon fail in modern thought, and thusly will come crashing down with a hell of a bump. Thats what I think anyway.

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You speak much sense Graag. You ought to stick around these parts.

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Monkspider, many thanks, I intend to. Though more out of a desire for self-glorification than any altruistic desire to enrich this collective pool of thought. But hey, it worked last time I posted here, so I'll go with it.

Incidentally I envision the downfall of the United States as part of a larger cultural apocalypse. Of what I mean by this I am unclear, but an apocalypse of some kind there shall be.

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If they would just ask the Justice League for help, then the J.L. would send Superman to check things out and this talk of war will pass

If not Superman the Wonder Women

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Well Baghdad did hand them the perfect excuse by lieing in thier decleration.


I never thought that I would agree with MWHC, but on this point, I concur with what he said.

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Well Baghdad did hand them the perfect excuse by lieing in thier decleration.


Only if that can be proved - so far it seems that they've proved diddly-squat...

The current inspection teams IIRC have the power to go anywhere including the presidential palaces at a moment's notice and yet after ten years of intelligence gathering nothing has so far been found - surely sending the CIA would help speed up the process.

If Saddam is lying as the US claims, surely he's cutting his own throat by allowing US agents in to find these WOMD?

BTW, why aren't we doing anything about North Korea seeing as they've just admitted to continuing their Nuclear programme which is also far more advanced than Iraq's - let's get our priorities right here and get North Korea first before taking down Iraq!

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And why dont "we" do anything about China? Those communist bastards eats their own children and want to kill our free, democratic, perfect society. And they are yellow to.

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