24-12-2002 02:25									#1
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But Warpstorm, what does this have to do with PTW? Maybe nothing, but this snippet from Microsoft's website leads me to believe it has a bit.

quote: Q. Are there any immediate benefits to installing DirectX 9.0? A. Improvements to DirectPlay let computers within a Windows Me or Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing network connect with each other, as well as with players elsewhere on the Internet. Users with modern UPnP network routers no longer need to configure them for DirectPlay, because DirectPlay will open and close the multiplayer gaming ports as needed. Q. Are there any known issues with regard to DirectX 9.0? A. Due to enhancements in the way DirectPlay functions, it is strongly recommended that all users who want to join or host multiplayer games upgrade to DirectX 9.0. A user with earlier versions of DirectX may have trouble joining or hosting games, or my see a significant performance reduction when playing with users who have 9.0 installed.

Hmmm...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/di...loads/drx90.asp

	24-12-2002 02:57									#2
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Have you been able to try a game out yet?? I'm downloading it now.

	24-12-2002 03:03									#3
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thanks for the heads up, in any case.

	24-12-2002 04:21									#4
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Very interesting, indeed! I was wondering if I should update or not, this has made me decide!

	27-12-2002 16:39									#5
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Well, anyone enjoying a better PtW with DirectX9? I've installed it but I still have lots of trouble hosting or joining games with more than 3 players.

	29-12-2002 01:12									#6
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Update : since I installed DirectX9, it seems that I can't host a PtW game at all anymore
Maybe it would work better if other players used DirectX9 too

	29-12-2002 02:02									#7
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Say, Crousto, dou you use Telenet, or Chello, other?

I've been having problems connecting and hosting direct-IP games (IE: they don't work at all)
(use telenet myself)

	29-12-2002 02:05									#8
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I'll wait a little before installing it (To hear if too many people have trouble with it...)

	29-12-2002 03:02									#9
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quote: Originally posted by alva Say, Crousto, dou you use Telenet, or Chello, other?

I'm on ADSL through Skynet. Maybe it's part of the problem, and maybe the next patch will make things better...

	29-12-2002 10:10									#10
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I also lost my abilitity to host games after installing directx9.

After launching the game, players can't connect to me. I have checked from my firewall that directplay server is listening on all interfaces on all directplay ports.

	29-12-2002 13:20									#11
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hosting works on my other machine (LAN) if I route tcp 6703 and udp 2302 to it. (it has dx81)

HOSTS BEWARE! Do not install dx9! (it cannot be uninstalled / changed back to dx81!)

	30-12-2002 05:41									#12
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I've rolled back to DirectX8 (with the system restore from WinXP... worked like a charm), and now I can host games again

	30-12-2002 07:59									#13
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I found the way to return back to dx8 with other operating systems also.

DirectX Eradicator at address http://www.freewebs.com/firecat/

You just run it and boot your machine.
After boot, few errormessages come up (ddraw.dll missing). Then just install the directx version you want.

(I rolled back to dx81 from dx9 with windows 2000)

	30-12-2002 22:58									#14
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Hi all,
Remember that DirectX9 is still officially Public Beta version. Microsoft are not supporting it in this form so if you get any problems you are on your own. Also the download currently available will expire at the end of March 2003, there is a warning about this in the official stuff. Do not be caught out.

I have tried loading it into XP and I could not play anything through internet. There was a conflict between the direct play and something else not registering modules correclty. Also there is some conflicts between my hardware accelerator/driver/directX9 (Nvidia GForce 4, 440 with 4109 drivers).

I rolled back the system (worked perfectly) to 8.1b and everything is fine.

I would not use this until Microsoft officially release it unless you are fairly advanced user.

Regards
Sun_Tzu

	30-12-2002 23:05									#15
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Dear all,
Forgot to mention that it also completely disabled the MAC bridge minport for my LAN on the ICS machine. I think it interfered with the packet scheduling while sharing.

Regards
Sun_Tzu

	30-12-2002 23:05									#16
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Take a look at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.asp

DirectX9 has been released (not beta anymore!) 19.december.2002

	30-12-2002 23:09									#17
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To all.
Create a system restore point from WindowsXP before experimenting with this DirectX9.
My Windows98 machine is now stuck until an update comes out from microsoft.

Regards
Sun_Tzu

	30-12-2002 23:12									#18
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larssi,
Checked the above link and will try a download and install tonight.

Thanks
Sun_Tzu

	30-12-2002 23:12									#19
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Dear sun_tsu

read my previous reply

you can use DirectX Eradicator at address http://www.freewebs.com/firecat/ to remove directx9 from your w98 machine.

	30-12-2002 23:18									#20
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larssi,
I will see if update can load over previous version first. I will go to link if not. Thanks for the assist.
Regards
Sun_Tzu

	31-12-2002 05:00									#21
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I've installed the update and have had no problems with it. Sure there are a few problems with MP sometimes, but they were there before I updated the DirectX component. DirectX is 100% backwards compatable(with all my games), there is no reason to avoid installing it, in my opinion.

	01-01-2003 00:26									#22
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I installed DX9 and now I am able to play MP (both directIP and GS) where before I had only failures.

	01-01-2003 01:26									#23
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So it seems that the only way to know if DirectX 9.0 will help you is with trial and error

Well, at least there are ways to fix your machine if it screws it up.

	02-01-2003 00:21									#24
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Actually, the current version of DirectX 9.0 is a BETA release....so might want to wait until the final release is hmmm, released.

	02-01-2003 00:23									#25
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quote: Originally posted by larssi Take a look at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.asp DirectX9 has been released (not beta anymore!) 19.december.2002

just saw your post larssi - checking it out...

	02-01-2003 00:30									#26
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Well, it's still listed as Release Candidate 0: Public Beta for End-User....I think I will still wait a bit on this...

quote: DirectX 9.0 RC 0: Public Beta for End-User Microsoft DirectX is a group of technologies designed to make Windows-based computers an ideal platform for running and displaying applications rich in multimedia elements such as full-color graphics, video, 3D animation, and rich audio. Date: 11/11/2002 Popularity: #13 English download

	02-01-2003 02:05									#27
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Somehow you are finding an old version, Wittlich. The version I see on MS site is from 12/19/2002.

	02-01-2003 02:17									#28
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I believe you are right WarpStorm, I revisited the site and it now has 12/19/2002 as the date....Ok, downloading now...

	02-01-2003 08:42									#29
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So Warp, you've been using it now for a couple of days, any thoughts?

	04-01-2003 22:41									#30
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Dear all,

I have been using DX9 on both XP and W98 since last post.

No problems at all on XP. Installed first time and correctly cleared the old version. I have tested with an old DX7 game and it works fine.

On the W98 it informs me that WHQL certificates are no longer checked. It did not install correctly over the old version (Old file versions left behind) so I had to clear it and reinstall clean. Having done this there are no problems.

Regards, STZ159