24-12-2002 08:35									#1
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Well applications are due January 1st and I still don't know where I want to go.... still have tons of work to do on them... great way to spend christmas vacation I just have two questions for anyone who knows more than me...

Firstly, has anyone had any experience with the following colleges? I haven't visited a single one, but I'm applying to them: Chicago, Dartmouth, Wash U, Tufts, Rochester, Union, SUNY Geneseo, SUNY Buffalo

Lastly, how do I send the applications?

	24-12-2002 08:40									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great Well applications are due January 1st and I still don't know where I want to go.... still have tons of work to do on them... great way to spend christmas vacation I just have two questions for anyone who knows more than me... Firstly, has anyone had any experience with the following colleges? I haven't visited a single one, but I'm applying to them: Chicago, Dartmouth, Wash U, Tufts, Rochester, Union, SUNY Geneseo, SUNY Buffalo Lastly, how do I send the applications?

My HS sent my applications. I think there is some expesive College directory you can pick up at the book store that lists where send this stuff. The one I go to I could just take a 3 minute drive to reapply every semister.

Also, if you are a liberal, any college will do. If you're not, then you're stuck. Be ready to be brainwashed. Even the one I goto which is in the sticks makes Berkley more like a conservative college (oxymoron).

	24-12-2002 08:42									#3
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Well I'm moderately conservative... but far from religious so I'll definitely have a hard time finding my own kind

What do I mail the applications in?

For chicago I've got at least 7 pages to mail... and thats a bit much to stuff into an envelope

	24-12-2002 08:54									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great Well I'm moderately conservative... but far from religious so I'll definitely have a hard time finding my own kind What do I mail the applications in? For chicago I've got at least 7 pages to mail... and thats a bit much to stuff into an envelope

Even moderate conservative would have a hard time.

IDK, all I did was show my college my Soph & Junior year report cards and I got in, with a somewhat low SAT score (can't recall what it was, but I can say I total bombed the math).

I guess "big" colleges are different. Have you checked their website and looked around to see how you apply. I'm sure they have to do that.

	24-12-2002 09:24									#5
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my first instinct is to put it in an envelope and mail it

but then it gets all folded and i'm afraid they'd frown upon that (i need all the help i can get to get into some of those places)

anyway, i don't think the post office is open tomorrow so i'll have to wait until after christmas to mail them... assuming they're done by then

	24-12-2002 09:27									#6
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You can always put it in a large envelope.

Furthermore, some of the colleges (such as Dartmouth, IIRC) you can apply online.

	24-12-2002 11:39									#7
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have you talked to your conselor at all? they really are there to help you and can answer almost every question you'll have

	24-12-2002 11:49									#8
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Well if they are due Jan.1 it's a little late to ask the gudiance counselor. Check the websites of the universities you are interested, they should give you an adress to mail your applications into. Some universities allow you to apply online.

	24-12-2002 11:56									#9
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CtG, just remember to be disappointed and bored with Uni beforehand, it'll save you a lot of time when you get there.

	24-12-2002 12:12									#10
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I particularly enjoyed the links that informed me about the history and culture of Islam. No more in the darkness will I flounder.

	24-12-2002 12:18									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 Also, if you are a liberal, any college will do. If you're not, then you're stuck. Be ready to be brainwashed.

ROTFL. For "brainwashed" substitute "learn to question unsubstantiated beliefs," but I agree that would be difficult for conservatives, who have never been very good at objective thought.

But that's OK. That's why there are C's.

As for the colleges listed, it depends a great deal on what you might be interested in:

+ Chicago -- excellent all-around school; top flight esp. in social sci.
+ Dartmouth -- typically excellent Ivy, extremely artsy.
+ Washington U. -- strange place; can't decide whether it wants to be another Chicago or another Reed or Bard.
+ Tufts -- very good school near the best college city in North America.
+ URI -- excellent in optics (go figure) and other applied sciences, don't know anything about it otherwise.
+ Geneseo -- a safety? Drinking school, automatic A if you show up.
+ SUNY Buffalo -- fairly weak, but if you're a NY resident it's a great price. You might consider SUNY-Albany instead; it's a better school all around.

All of the above have the caveat that if you have a specific interest in one particular field, then it all comes down to the department. Generally speaking, a Chicago, Dartmouth, WU (if you work in the midwest) or Tufts (if you work in the east) degree will help you. The others have no profile outside of NY.

Good luck!

	24-12-2002 12:44									#12
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"ROTFL. For "brainwashed" substitute "learn to question unsubstantiated beliefs," but I agree that would be difficult for conservatives, who have never been very good at objective thought.

But that's OK. That's why there are C's."

See, it's comments like this that can make people look like pompous *******s. Making broad assumptions that people who disagree with you are revealing of an infantile understanding of people.

Anyway, I'd ignore Kepler's advice on education. Look at this:

quote: + Geneseo -- a safety? Drinking school, automatic A if you show up.

It's no Harvard, but that doesn't mean it isn't a decent school. According to www.review.com it has average SAT score of over 1200. I reccomens you check out that website anyway for information on colleges you are interested in, it's better then asking people here. If I could give you any on advice, don't base too much of your decision on the prestige of the school you go to. That doesn't really make too much of a difference. Go for what you feel is suited to you and where you will get the best education.

	24-12-2002 19:16									#13
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I thought Wash U was a pretty decent school, and for a smaller uni it has a decent post grad reputation.

Mail your apps by US Postal express mail: they have full size envelopes so you won't have to fold anything, it only costs a couple of bucks for two day delivery, and you get a confirmation number that allows you to track delivery. Just like FedEx but at 20% of the cost for just a day slower.

	24-12-2002 21:29									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi It's no Harvard, but that doesn't mean it isn't a decent school. According to www.review.com it has average SAT score of over 1200. I reccomens you check out that website anyway for information on colleges you are interested in, it's better then asking people here. If I could give you any on advice, don't base too much of your decision on the prestige of the school you go to. That doesn't really make too much of a difference. Go for what you feel is suited to you and where you will get the best education.

There are many state schools (Texas A&M, Virginia Military Institute) with average SAT scores in the mid 1200s. That isn't really anything to brag about.

	24-12-2002 22:37									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi It's no Harvard, but that doesn't mean it isn't a decent school. According to www.review.com it has average SAT score of over 1200.

Any self-respecting school will demand at least that.

	24-12-2002 23:01									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse There are many state schools (Texas A&M, Virginia Military Institute) with average SAT scores in the mid 1200s. That isn't really anything to brag about.

I didn't say it was something to brag about. What does mean is that it isn't a crappy school and it isn't deserving of a snooty comment like the one Kepler made about it.

	25-12-2002 01:21									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great Well applications are due January 1st and I still don't know where I want to go.... still have tons of work to do on them... great way to spend christmas vacation I just have two questions for anyone who knows more than me... Firstly, has anyone had any experience with the following colleges? I haven't visited a single one, but I'm applying to them: Chicago, Dartmouth, Wash U, Tufts, Rochester, Union, SUNY Geneseo, SUNY Buffalo Lastly, how do I send the applications?

I've found that as far as the college, it doesn't really matter. They're all the same, just different buildings. Unless of course one has some particular special program that you like... but I think you'll find that doesn't even matter. Nitpicking over what one college has over another seems alot more important in high school than when you're actually there.

I think its all about location. Choose the school thats in the city or part of the city that most appeals to you. Your location will affect the next 4 years of your life alot more than what your classroom looks like in my opinion.

	25-12-2002 03:53									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi I didn't say it was something to brag about. What does mean is that it isn't a crappy school and it isn't deserving of a snooty comment like the one Kepler made about it.

Shi --

1. It's a crappy school and a toilet paper degree. Better to go to a HVAC training school where you might actually learn something marketable.

2. Sorry if you have a problem with certain schools being better than others. The guy who posted the question should know that degrees carry baggage and are also reflective of real differences in the education you get. To say "they're all equal" is horrendously inaccurate and bad advice.

3. If you are looking for pompous, look at the top of the thread, where some ignorant imbecile decided to gratuitously throw in the usual dittohead mush about liberal bias and blah blah blah.

4. Now go finish up your degree. This nation is facing a critical understaffing at Wendys.

	25-12-2002 03:59									#19
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go to SCU! santa clara baby!

and as for certain schools being better than others, its really what YOU do in college, not where you go. You make your college experience.

	25-12-2002 05:08									#20
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"1. It's a crappy school and a toilet paper degree. Better to go to a HVAC training school where you might actually learn something marketable.

2. Sorry if you have a problem with certain schools being better than others. The guy who posted the question should know that degrees carry baggage and are also reflective of real differences in the education you get. To say "they're all equal" is horrendously inaccurate and bad advice."

Have you been to SUNY- Geneseo? Unless you have, or you know someone who has been there and has heard, shut up. Princeton Review for one, seems to have to a more positive outlook:

http://www.princetonreview.com/coll...tegory=5<ID=1

quote: Academics Future undergrads seeking a small-school experience at state-school prices would do well to consider SUNY Geneseo, the competitive liberal arts campus located in one of the system s northern outposts. Gushes one student, "Geneseo s greatest strength is in academics. I was warned that it would be hard to access professors at a state school, but at Geneseo, nothing could be further from the truth. My class sizes are small, my professors all know me personally, and they are always available to discuss anything with their students. The academic work is incredibly challenging it requires a lot of time and effort to succeed here. I m proud of the rigorous academic standards at Geneseo." Other students warn, however, that "professors vary by department, and it s very clear that there is a bias toward specific departments that the school is known for." The school s most prominent programs include "excellent" dance and theatre programs, a "great" school of business, and popular psychology and biology departments. The best professors here "take time to get to know you on a personal level and are extremely accessible inside and outside of the classroom. Because our university is geared more toward the undergraduate as opposed to the graduate, the professors will bend over backwards to help you." The administration, "particularly when it comes to financial aid and bills, is somewhat lacking, but I guess compared to other schools is average."

If I were CtG, I'd give those student's opinion alot more weight than a psudeo education expert snob from Oregon. As for feeling that a degree from a prestitigous university, I don't think there'd be one gudiance counselor at my high school would place very great consideration into prestige of the degree, and my school was one of the top 10 public high schools in Maryland, sending large numbers of students to ivy leauge and ivy caliber schools. I remember hearing from them back then the studies have shown that the same person who went to an elite university would not earn less if the same person had attended a state university. (while it would be true the average Harvard grad would do better then the average Geneseo grad, but that's due to the fact the average person who goes to Harvard tends to come from a wealthier background and is more achievement oriented). For Graduate schools, admission tends to be more numbers based and it won't matter too much where you went to undergrad school. If you want an Apolyton example, Imran went to Rutgers University for undergrad, a not too presitgious New Jersey State School, and is now attending Emory Law school.

"3. If you are looking for pompous, look at the top of the thread, where some ignorant imbecile decided to gratuitously throw in the usual dittohead mush about liberal bias and blah blah blah."

Except Liberal Bias, while not the point of this thread, is a well documented fact at colleges. If you really want to hear about that go ask Boshko who goes to Wesleyan. Leftist professors far outnumber Conservative ones. I have definitely encountered it here at my university(except in my economics class). My Sociology class was basically left wing propoganda, the textbook seemed to basically conclude that all of society was a conspiracy by corporations to keep the worked down.(I still managed an A+ in the class).

"4. Now go finish up your degree. This nation is facing a critical understaffing at Wendys."

I am sorry my family doesn't have the money to blow on a fancy university for undergrand. . I am on a merit-based scholarship at a solid state university, and am in the honors college there too. But I will be able to get out of school debt free and be able to attend grad school fine.


CtG, honestly, I reccomend check you better sources then the off topic of a gaming website. Get some college guide books that are out there, talk to guidance counselors, go check out what they have at www.review.com But don't rely on pompous windbag fools such as Kepler for this important decision.

	25-12-2002 08:08									#21
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Hey I'm applying to University of Chicago. I'm almost done with the app. Ask me some questions.