30-12-2002 21:46									#31
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quote: Originally posted by DanS MWHC: Get this through your thick skull: It will not be useful to you, if you live in Suburban Hell or out in the middle of BFE.

what?!

	30-12-2002 21:50									#32
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BFE = Bum Fvck Egypt. I.e., out in the middle of nowhere.

	30-12-2002 21:52									#33
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I was kidding dude...

	30-12-2002 21:56									#34
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If you don't buy this toy, the terrorists will win.

	30-12-2002 23:43									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka If you don't buy this toy, the terrorists will win.

Seriously, this thing IS gonna change the world. IIRC, this model being sold on Amazon is an INDUSTRIAL model and that a true consumer version (running under a grand, hopefully) will be ready for production in another year

	31-12-2002 01:47									#36
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Well, I don't think this is something straight from the devil. What is making me wondering is the price, it's so high and yet you don't get very much .

So, if people have so much money to throw away for a thing like that.. there's something fundamentally wrong .

	31-12-2002 01:52									#37
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Why? We buy all sorts of useless sh!t from Japan.

	31-12-2002 12:52									#38
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This would work if we had invented it 100 years ago.

You should all know how resistant america is to change. We love our cars, they aren't going anywhere.

Weather is a serious hazard for this thing. What about when it rains or snows. Hell even a windy day would probably disrupt the control of that thing.

Also the thing is so expensive it will be stolen. bicycle locks can be cut easy. How do we prevent them from being stolen?

	31-12-2002 13:51									#39
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quote: Originally posted by DetroitDave I 've heard a lot of cities will consider these no different than any other motorizied trans.

Exactly. The thing that confuses me the most about the Segway is that if you really think about it all this thing is juest another electric scooter, and they've been around for decades. I could build a scooter in my garage with some junk I bought at Ax-Man, so why spend $6000 on one of these?

quote: Originally posted by Dissident Also the thing is so expensive it will be stolen. bicycle locks can be cut easy. How do we prevent them from being stolen?

Don't they just have keys? If they don't I imagine they will once a bunch of them get stolen.

	31-12-2002 13:56									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Darius871 Exactly. The thing that confuses me the most about the Segway is that if you really think about it all this thing is juest another electric scooter, and they've been around for decades. I could build a scooter in my garage with some junk I bought at Ax-Man, so why spend $6000 on one of these?

segways don't tip over

	31-12-2002 14:26									#41
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quote: is juest another electric scooter

seen any scooters that you accelerate by leaning forward?

quote: Don't they just have keys?

they do

	31-12-2002 15:12									#42
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The flintstones will soon be the future of America.

Everyone will get so fat, that they'll send themselves backwards into the stone age, and to get fit again, they'll take the engine out of the cars and make you push them.

	01-01-2003 11:25									#43
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At first I thought that this was a really dumb invention but then after considering it, I think that it's absolutley brilliant.

The most promising application of this device is for police departments -- coverage problems keep cops off the streets and keeps them in their cars. Now with these things we can have cops "on foot" patrolling a larger number of areas.

I still have some safety concerns with it though.

	01-01-2003 11:35									#44
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG seen any scooters that you accelerate by leaning forward?

No, a normal scooter just has a small lever to pull. I'm going to pay $5800 more just to get a different mechanism for accelerating?

	01-01-2003 13:52									#45
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The other thing is that no matter who you are, you will look like a dork on it.

	01-01-2003 14:09									#46
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That's pretty easy to solve Snoopy.

All we have to do is hire some "urban marketing" firm to "plant" some PR out there in the urban scene to make it a "dope ride," and viola, every teenage white boy in america will want want one.

Personally I'm trying to get my Segway decked out with crome rims, hydrolics, and a sub woofer.

	02-01-2003 01:21									#47
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cars have keys and they get stolen easy. Esp if they don't have any anti-theft agents. And being the key slot is so easily accessible you can gurantee many will be stolen. It's not like they have a steering wheel that locks and other anti-theft devices.

Maybe someone will invent the club for the segway.

This is ridiculous. Scooters are longer, but more narrow than a segway. They don't require complicated gyros to keep the thing upright. What keeps them upright? That's right- the human brain and its sense of balance. Much more efficient than gyros and such. And scooters can carry more as well.

And whay happens when that needlessly complicated gyro system fails? $6000 down the drain.

Why not just invent a smaller scooter that runs on a battery? The segways are still too big to use on sidewalks. You won't be able to get two side by side. The only alternative is to redesign cities completely. Or ban cars- which I think is their primary motive for building these things.

	02-01-2003 01:25									#48
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well, it can travel at 40kmh, which is pretty good. (I'm pretty sure its k and not m).

For the average person, it's quite useless, but there are people who would like it, mainly disabled people, then I imagine it catching on as a sport, and then it will be quite popular. But for me, it's totally useless, I prefer to walk everywhere. Hey, if African's can run 9 miles in one direction, stand there all day and run 9 miles back, I can walk 1 mile to work and back too. There's no excuse for laziness.

	02-01-2003 01:29									#49
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well you have to stand in it- which rules out disabled people. Disabled people where I live have those nice motorized carts. I want one