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Although there was no clear winner for "most admired woman" the front runner is Hillary Clinton in this MSNBC poll. link

You've got to be kidding me! The idea that anyone would admire that manipulative ice queen is truly scary. What's there to admire? Remember the poll that ranked her as one of the top female lawyers in the country! What a joke that was too.

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Hillary has always had very high positives and very high negatives. And here, the poll only measured positive reaction, not positive minus negative reactions.

She was a partner in Clinton's becoming the youngest governor in the history of Arkansas, becoming one of the longest reigning governors in the history of Arkansas and becoming President of the U.S. She's the first First Lady to have held a job and the first First Lady to hold elected political office. She's a doer. She's incredibly intelligent and articulate. Why wouldn't she have high positive numbers?

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Hillary Clinton...........baaaaaaaaaa
what a crock.....

heres my list.....

Arundhati Roy
Eleanor Roosevelt
Elizabeth Dole
Katherine Hepburn
Diana

Bella Abzug ..an attorney, author, lecturer, news commentator, and former US Representative from New York. She has been a lifelong activist in support of civil rights, equal rights for women and disarmament, and in 1970 she became the first woman elected to Congress on a women's rights/peace platform. As a lawmaker, Ms. Abzug co-authored the Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts. She was the first to call for President Nixon's impeachment in the 1970s and cast one of the first votes for the Equal Rights Amendment.
She is currently co-chair of the Women's Environmental Development Organization (WEDO). In this capacity, she served as senior advisor to UNCED Secretary General Maurice Strong and successfully campaigned to incorporate key issues of the women's agenda into official statements approved at the Earth Summit. In 1991, she presided over the Women's Congress for a Healthy Planet. While giving most of her time to environmental work, Bella Abzug continues to devote her energies to women's rights and reproductive freedom. She played a major role in the UN Decade for Women. She is chair of New York city's Commission on the Status of Women and is directing a National Parity Campaign to increase the number of women in elective office.


some prob no ones ever heard of...........

Aletta Jacobs (1854-1929) opened the first birth control clinic in the world in Holland.

Dorothea Dix (1802-1887) as a child took care of her invalid mother and younger brothers. She started her first school at age 14 and published a science texbook in 1824. Her career helping the mentally ill began when she agreed to teach Sunday School in the East Cambridge jail. She discovered some mentally ill women who were denied heat in their cells. The jailor claimed the insane could not feel the cold. Dix took the jail into court and the rest is herstory. In 1840, the mentally ill were caged, chained, beaten, unclothed, and jailed on a routine basis. Dix championed their cause.

Valerie Edmee Andre (born 1922) studied medicine during the Nazi occupation of France. Perhaps that accounts for her bravery and daring-do in later life. Between 1945 and 1954, France fought the Indo-chinese for control of Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia. Andre joined the French Army and flew her own helicopter to pick up wounded soldiers. On one mission, she parachuted into the jungle to treat soldiers with typhus. She was awarded the Croix de guerre three times. In the 1970's, she became France's first woman general.



Mae Jamison (born 1956)This physician and chemical engineer is the first Afro-American to fly in space on the Endeavour. trained as a chemical engineer at Stanford University, then went on to medical school at Cornell. She also served in the Peace Corps for two years as a medical officer. In 1987, she was ready to tackle NASA where women and minorities had been excluded from the space program before Sally Ride. In 1992, she flew on the maiden voyage of the space shuttle Endeavour.


Alice Hamilton (1869-1970) - This doctor led the effort to stop lead poisoning and established the field of "industrial medicine."she began her career at Jane Addams Hull House and wound up as an assistant professor of industrial medicine at Harvard University. She researched and documented cases of morbidity in lead industries, and later the rubber and munitions industries. Although she looked very fragile, she was very persistant in getting private industry to clean up its act. She wrote the first textbook in America on industrial medicine in 1925.

Dr. Mary Walker... This dress reformer won the Medal of Honor as a spy and surgeon in the U.S. Army.was not only a woman who adopted bloomers and pants worn under a skirt; she also got herslef into the Union Army as a woman surgeon during the Civil War. She was captured as a spy and imprisoned. In the Confederate prison, she made so much trouble for her captors practicing passive resistance, they traded her for another officer of equal rank. She was awarded the Medal of Honor for her Civil War service. Nevertheless, she died broke.

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Julie Newmar! Rawr! Sexy and an inventor as well!

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seriously Hillary is only admired by half the population. Actually even less than that. Because not all liberal men like her.

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By the way I had a list of my top 10 admired women.

Copied and pasted frmo my top 10 women list.

Natalie Portman
Heidi Klum
Halle Berry
Salma Hayek
Soledad O'Brien: news anchor who I really have a thing for- for some reason
Kirsten Duntz
Cameron Diaz
Catherine Zeta Jones
Ashley Judd
Catherine Bell

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By the way I had a list of my top 10 admired women.

Copied and pasted frmo my top 10 women list.

Natalie Portman
Heidi Klum
Halle Berry
Salma Hayek
Soledad O'Brien: news anchor who I really have a thing for- for some reason
Kirsten Duntz
Cameron Diaz
Catherine Zeta Jones
Ashley Judd
Catherine Bell



hummm well so women are only to be admired
if they are beautiful

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Boudicca! Have some o' that, ya bastard Roman colonists.

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Anyone putting Margaret Thatcher will be summarily executed without trial.

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She is currently co-chair of the Women's Environmental Development Organization (WEDO)...While giving most of her time to environmental work, Bella Abzug continues to devote her energies to women's rights and reproductive freedom.


Um, Bella Abzug joined the Women's Caucus in the Sky several years ago. Remarkable nonetheless; some of her earliest cases were civil rights defendants in the South, in the days when that could be a very dangerous occupation.

I'd add Dorothy Day.

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I'll second Thatcher and add Florence Nightingale (sp?).

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I like Sandra Day O'Connor, who was the first woman on the Supreme Court (although that honor falls to Earl Warren according to Hank Hill) and has managed to be the deciding vote on an astounding number of issues. Perhaps the most politically influential woman in American history.

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I like sinead o'connor better!

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Married men admire Hillary cause they wanna wife like her... its COOL when you blow your load on someone else....

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hummm well so women are only to be admired
if they are beautiful




Me thinks I best not answer this question truthfully.

And who's to say the women on my list aren't as smart as Hillary Clinton? I say they are just as smart.

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Well, one can admire a woman for her beauty. Given the bizarre selections that some people make, such as Hilary Clinton and Jacklyn Bouvier-Kennedy-Onassis, a choice based upon beauty has more validity.

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this thread is sad
....women are of value only if they are beautiful ...
and Dissident that attitude i could understand coming from a teen but you're no teenage boy.
im sure if you asked any of the women on your list
they would be intelligent enough to want to be
admired for something other than that outward beauty.
and their lists of women to admire would not include just women whos major contribution to the world was to look good.

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Diana can only be admired for her services to shopping

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diana did a lot of charity work and was greatly loved by many people around the world and not because she was a pretty face.

She crusaded against anti-personnel land mines with high-profile visits to Bosnia and Angola and worked with AIDS organizations and charities for children.

Diana had Christie's auction off 79 gowns collected during her 15 years as the wife of Windsor. All proceeds from the auction went to charity.

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diana did a lot of charity work and was greatly loved by many people around the world and not because she was a pretty face.

She crusaded against anti-personnel land mines with high-profile visits to Bosnia and Angola and worked with AIDS organizations and charities for children.

Diana had Christie's auction off 79 gowns collected during her 15 years as the wife of Windsor. All proceeds from the auction went to charity.


She was a nice woman who did most of those things as PR stunts to make herself more popular than Charles.

There are many thousands of people who do better (unsung) work than Diana ever did.

No one thought much of her until she went kapput

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well since you seem to be able to see into her heart and know her true motives ....i suppose theres nothing that can be said to refute such facts.

nevertheless...i don't see you posting any lists of other more worthy women?

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well since you seem to be able to see into her heart and know her true motives ....i suppose theres nothing that can be said to refute such facts.

nevertheless...i don't see you posting any lists of other more worthy women?


Ok I will

Mary Robinson
The Pankhursts
Marie Curie
Elizabeth Butler-Sloss(English High Court Judge)
Margaret Thatcher(although I don't agree with alot of her policies)
My Gran

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How about Marie Curie? She gave us nuclear weapons because of her work

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Which women do I admire? Certainly not politicians or royalty.

I admire women who have been through hell and back, yet still find the strength to be the best person they can be. We are talking about women who have been raped, beaten etc. Yet they don't go around calling themselves victims. They feel it is more important to be strong than to be a victim. These are the women I admire.

Other than that I admire female scientists and other women who contribute to a field they are not widely accepted in.

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