30-12-2002 02:54									#1
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This one hurts...

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/featur...f2002/pc33.html

	30-12-2002 03:04									#2
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I believe this was already posted...

	30-12-2002 04:27									#3
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I am at a loss as to how they could think this was worse than MM9.
Lucky for me I got what I expected from PTW and I am pleased. I have a drawer full of games that I did not play or stop soon after, so I will not reqret this purchase.

	30-12-2002 05:20									#4
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For $30, I'm disappointed myself. It really is just an added multi-player feature, and little touch-ups that aren't much different from new versions being released online for free.

	30-12-2002 10:55									#5
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Truely... I thing gamespot hit a mark. I think after promising mutliplayer with CivIII itself and then making us pay $30 for it is a dishonarable, backstabbing, and complete cheat of a move. Basically what you're paying for is the multiplayer option... anything else... I reapat ANYTHING ELSE in the game could have been added with a patch, which firaxis promised but never delivered.

	31-12-2002 09:09									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I would like to take the time to point out how HORRIBLE the PRIMA strategy guide is. For starters, it was $20, but Best Buy cashiers are morons so I paid $10. Anyways, the table of contents doesn't even list page numbers. It has false information. And there is NO strategy, WHATSOEVER. It is basically a second copy of the manual. Don't buy that worthless piece of sh*t.

	31-12-2002 10:56									#7
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That is what many guides are nowadays. No strategy at all or it is so generic as to be useless.

	31-12-2002 11:01									#8
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Prima is normally pretty good, but expensive... this will probably be my last guide from them...or any guide for that matter. I used to like to read them during loading, but I guess online ones are free and now outway the $20 or whatever they may be.

	31-12-2002 11:10									#9
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with quite a large number of discontent gamers.. the producers should be taking notice... but no... they just come up with more crap

	31-12-2002 14:07									#10
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Prima's Civ3 Strat Gde gave a decent PREVIEW of the game, before it was available, but of course several things changed once the game came out.

OTOH, their PTW Strat Gde was EXTREMELY dissapointing. It has several things in it that was pure speculation from the author's standpoint, totally contrary to Firaxian statements here, in addition to idiocys that were ... (well, e.g., that you pay maintenance for captured workers)!!

	31-12-2002 19:49									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Lord_Davinator I think after promising mutliplayer with CivIII itself and then making us pay $30 for it is a dishonarable, backstabbing, and complete cheat of a move.

I was under the impression that they didn't promise MP in Civ3. I thought they stated they would have liked to include it in the game, but they didn't have time to iron out all the details by release date.

I can understand people's disenchantment with some of the MP bugs, but not with the "promise" of MP.

	31-12-2002 23:36									#12
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All I have to say is that I'm soooooo glad I didn't waste my hard earned cash on this crap............

The fact that the game was patched immediately upon it's release date should tell you something.

But I guess Firaxis/Infogreed figured that they'd get the paying public to be their beta brigade. Phoooeeooeoeoeoeooyyyyyyy

	31-12-2002 23:45									#13
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I bought PTW two weeks ago and I have yet to play and on-line game. I've tried twice but the game always crashed even after I installed the patch. I have a P4 and a cable modem so I know it's not my hardware.

	01-01-2003 12:04									#14
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quote: Originally posted by bobbo008 I would like to take the time to point out how HORRIBLE the PRIMA strategy guide is.

I've stopped buying strategy guides. if I ever need some help, it's all on the net. Free, too.

	01-01-2003 23:36									#15
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Ha ha ha

	02-01-2003 23:52									#16
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If people keep buying crap, the game producers will keep making it. I hear PtW isn't selling that well (at least not compared to Civ3), so maybe Firaxis will learn something. But I'm betting they won't learn anything, since they released a very buggy 1st release on Civ3, and they turned around and did an even worse buggy release of PtW.

Expect nothing but buggy games from Firaxis (at least when they're 1st released). They'll probably never fix the bugs in PtW, because I doubt they're planning any future expansion packs.

	03-01-2003 01:45									#17
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quote: Originally posted by woody If people keep buying crap, the game producers will keep making it. I hear PtW isn't selling that well (at least not compared to Civ3), so maybe Firaxis will learn something. But I'm betting they won't learn anything, since they released a very buggy 1st release on Civ3, and they turned around and did an even worse buggy release of PtW. Expect nothing but buggy games from Firaxis (at least when they're 1st released). They'll probably never fix the bugs in PtW, because I doubt they're planning any future expansion packs.

I couldn't agree with you more or stated it more clearly.