02-01-2003 22:33									#1
	Reccomend some good "rebuilding civilization" books. Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

A random event triggered a 10 years old memory of Jules Verne's "The Mysterious Island" and I got a strong urge for some similar (but more modern) book.

Do you have anything to reccomend?

	02-01-2003 22:40									#2
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Das Kapital

	02-01-2003 22:44									#3
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Last one of the style I've read... The Postman by David Brin. Some nice thinking about how humans tend to be swept away by the greater trends of events. I'm still not sure if its ending is cool or corny, though. Tells about a guy deceiving people into thinking that a new postal system and a government has been established in a post-nuclear war US and finding out that people fall for it so well that they actually do establish a government and postal system.

	02-01-2003 23:31									#4
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I'd heartily recommend A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr. It deals with the thousand-year reconstruction of civilization after a nuclear war. It's got a fascinating element in that the Catholic Church is the agent that preserves the few remnants of civilization that exist -- but in their efforts to preserve, they of course interpret through a religious lens, and so they make a lot of mistakes about what various things mean. It's not an action-packed book, so if that's what you're looking for then this isn't for you. If you're up for something thoughtful and reflective, though, you might enjoy it rather a lot.

I would also recommend Earth Abides by George R. Stewart and even Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank.

I hope that helps. Enjoy!

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	02-01-2003 23:35									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Ubergeek I'd heartily recommend A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. MIller, Jr. ... I hope that helps. Enjoy!

Hehe, Chris 62 just offered the same on CFC. With two people saying it's a good one, I guess i'll start reading it.

	02-01-2003 23:35									#6
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Didn't "The Postman" novel end on an Amazon-ish note?

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I feel sorry for David Brin. I've read some of his books (Uplift series) and thought they were pretty good. Then I noticed a note on the About the Author section at the end of one: "David Brin's novel The Postman is currently being made into a major motion picture starring Kevin Costner"

You poor, poor bastard.

	03-01-2003 01:24									#8
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Ah I remember that book. A classic. And damn fun too.

	03-01-2003 01:30									#9
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LOL, yeah The Postman was just about as bad as a movie can be and not actually kill the viewers outright. I remember the brouhaha over Waterworld and I actually liked that movie a lot, so I went into The Postman thinking, "How bad can it be?"

Unfortunately, I learned how bad it can be. I couldn't even finish watching it, I turned it off about a third of the way in.

	03-01-2003 01:54									#10
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Read the book well before the movie came out, and enjoyed it enough to anticipate the movie. hahahahaha
MOVIE SUCKED REAL BAD.

	03-01-2003 01:55									#11
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"Z for Zacariah"- Robert O'Brien

	03-01-2003 02:42									#12
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'The Postman' is a very good book - it's a shame about the film.

A good one to read is Stephen King's 'The Stand'.