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Garth Vader is offline Garth Vader
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Saskatoon, SK, CA
Oct 1999
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Post  Old Post 20-11-2000 19:54
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Does anybody know if there is an easy way to calculate your industry output for your empire? I would like to know total industry, support, and useable industry. I don't want to have to click on each base and calculate that myself

MariOne is offline MariOne
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Erewhon in Neverland
May 1999
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Post  Old Post 26-11-2000 04:39
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well, if it's YOUR empire, you don't actually need to "click" on each of your bases.
You can click on the first, and then browse them all using the right arrow key...

Seriously, I also like to draw that stat in my games, and I haven't found anything better than adding mineral/production/support figures base by base.

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Jun 1999
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Post  Old Post 27-11-2000 00:23
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I liked that 'demographics' screen in Civ. Too bad they never included something similar in SMAC.

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I can use the arrow key? Cool, I didn't know that!

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Can you? Or do you just mean the little right arrow button on screen?

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Yeah, I think he means the little arrows on either side of the base names. Still, it is a tad annoying having to complie everything - and yeah, there should be a demographics screen. I would also like the population to be a little more specific, as it was in civ2....

Misotu is offline Misotu
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Leamington Spa, England
Dec 1999
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Post  Old Post 27-11-2000 21:37
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Yes, that's the thing I find most inconvenient, not being able to see the size of each base in the F4 screen.

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Nov 1999
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Post  Old Post 28-11-2000 10:39
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No, he does not mean the arrows next to the base names. The arrow keys on your keyboard can be used to move back and forth between your bases. Also, if memory serves, the spacebar will advance you to the next base. Other undocumented hotkeys I've found are:

'c': will change production, bringing up the production selection screen.
'p': same thing.
'h': brings up the hurry production window.
'r': brings up the rename base window.
''esc': closes the window.

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Originally posted by Misotu on 11-27-2000 11:37 AM
Yes, that's the thing I find most inconvenient, not being able to see the size of each base in the F4 screen.


Oh but you can. Just click on the citizens tab, and count.

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Garth Vader is offline Garth Vader
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Man, I have to spend some time fiddling around finding some of these tricks.

This is just like the time a friend and I finished Panzer General without realizing you could upgrade your units in between missions, rather than only during them.
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Originally posted by Chowlett on 11-27-2000 02:21 PM
Oh but you can. Just click on the citizens tab, and count.


Chowlett, I'm going to assume that this is a joke

Perhaps I should have written "see at a glance"? Anyway, if you're not familiar with Civ (which was the comparison that sparked the comment) the city screen in that game features the number of pop displayed clearly as a number - within the city icon itself IIRC.

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Oh but you can. Just click on the citizens tab, and count


It can be extremely annyoning to have to count them all one by one. It would be OK if you could just take a look and see which line is longer, but when they get to a decent size, the citizen icons start to overlap, which can make life extremely frustrating. Would it have been too much to ask to just put a little eensy-weensy number in there somewhere?

Mark13

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Yeah the Civ F1 screen is the basis for my original complaint. In that screen you could see the cities population, industry, trade, and what they were building.

So why the hell did they get rid of that in SMAC?!?

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Post  Old Post 28-11-2000 07:20
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The arrow keys he was talking about are the < and > keys, basically what happens when you push shift on the comma (,) and period(.) keys. You do not need to push shift. Once you open up a base screen you can scroll through all your bases really easily, I think they are listed in alphabetical order. This is really handy for factions that are heavy in micromanagement or if you have a crappy mouse and especially handy if you have both =].

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