03-01-2003 04:15									#1
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This is with regards to Gathering Storm. See that thread for more discussion. Esp. with my regards about their knowledge of the map. It is because of this I do not want to agree to #1.

This is a multiple choice poll. Vote for which one's you support.

	03-01-2003 04:20									#2
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of course #1 seems to be a big selling point with them. They may not go along with the other proposals unless they include #1.

And I didn't vote for #5. I am all for discussing it. But we get the isthmus plain and simple. Esp. considering the southern continent is bigger than the northern.

	03-01-2003 04:29									#3
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OK I'll take back my vote on #4. (see foriegn affairs thread). This won't be necessary if we don't agree to #1. We should be able to go around and see for ourselves.

the only unit restrictions I'd like to agree to are to stay out of each other's national borders (which at this point are just city borders), and not attack each other (which would prevent them from entering the Northern continent- althought that would piss them off not being able to get by our warriors.

	03-01-2003 05:45									#4
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I vote for #2 only.

I will go with #3 if we lie/mislead them.

I will go with #5 if we simply tell them that the Isthmus is the property of the Acme Construction company of Vox Controli, as directed bt the One Voice, and that acme will be determining its fate. ... or ... to be more direct. Forget it. We got here first. It's ours.

	03-01-2003 06:00									#5
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and we get copyrights on the acme logo

yeah you are right- we only have 1 luxery don't we? We could say we have 1 of each luxery- and thusly cannot trade with them because we are using it. We could say we have one wine, one incense etc.

	03-01-2003 07:21									#6
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3 and 4 we cannot tell them the truth because it will giive away our position

1 I am not sure about (I don't want to say it)

5, there is nothing to discuss really, it is ours (but we need to not point out how impotyant it is to us, we can say somthing about discussing it at a later point)

2, sure, for some techs (not all)

Jon Miller

	03-01-2003 07:26									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident and we get copyrights on the acme logo yeah you are right- we only have 1 luxery don't we? We could say we have 1 of each luxery- and thusly cannot trade with them because we are using it. We could say we have one wine, one incense etc.

no, they will know we are lying

in the game, the luxuries come in groups (They are together)

say that we will discuss what luxuries we want to trade when we have road connections

Jon Miller

	03-01-2003 08:28									#8
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I never noticed them coming in groups. I'm in another game where I only have one luxery. I'm not sure what you mean by groups.

	03-01-2003 08:30									#9
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Quite often they come in groups of three. And sometimes four. You either get one or the group. We got one.

	03-01-2003 08:33									#10
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I guess we only got one because it is next to the ocean.

I'm in the irc channel if anyone wants to use it

	03-01-2003 08:36									#11
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by north I think that GS means beyond the ismus

as this is the case, I think that we cannot agree to that provision

Jon miller

	03-01-2003 08:36									#12
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yes my thoughts exactly. They want to box us in.

	03-01-2003 08:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I guess we only got one because it is next to the ocean. I'm in the irc channel if anyone wants to use it

not on my mom's computer

and I am not suppose to edit it

Jon Miller

	03-01-2003 08:55									#14
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Diss - which channel are you on. I went to #Apolyton - you weren't there - and couldn't see the other channel listed.

	03-01-2003 09:01									#15
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I also typed in /j #vox controli

I'm on there now, but I had it minimized

	03-01-2003 21:51									#16
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Well, I don't really like any of the choices...but having to decide, I voted for 2 and 4.

	03-01-2003 22:17									#17
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Hi Witt. That has been the concensus.

	04-01-2003 00:32									#18
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We must grab that jungle ASAP. After we have a city in the chokepoint we should start settling the jungle, even if the cities there will be sucky. Otherwise, as someone already mentioned, they'll lock us in our isthmus and it's game over.

	04-01-2003 10:13									#19
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I agere Eli

Jon Miller