04-01-2003 00:50									#1
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The Civ3 editor is at "final candidate," as noted at IMG and Westlake's project page.

http://www.westlakeinteractive.com/projectstat.html

	04-01-2003 01:58									#2
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Hmm ... is the Mac Civ III editor compatible with the Play the World XP that's also coming to the platform? Any word on the 1.29 PC patch coming to the Macintosh?

Gatekeeper

	04-01-2003 03:49									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Hmm ... is the Mac Civ III editor compatible with the Play the World XP that's also coming to the platform? Any word on the 1.29 PC patch coming to the Macintosh? Gatekeeper

Very good questions which I wish I knew the answers to. But, since the Civ3 editor is built for OSX only, PTW might very well be OSX only - if the editor is to be compatible w/ PTW. I guess an editor for classic could be added to PTW, but from all the "turmoil" this game has caused MacSoft, it might be unlikely. I believe I read where it was suggested that the features of 1.29f (PC) would just be featured in the Mac PTW, meaning if you stayed w/ vanilla Civ3, then you play 1.21g. Musings.

	04-01-2003 08:38									#4
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Vanilla Civ III? What's that? The original, unadulturated game which shipped with the 1.17 PC patch fixes already included?

The current status is?

1. 1.21 patch available for Mac?
2. 1.29 patch may become a part of the PtW XP?
3. Editor and PtW only playable on X?

Gatekeeper

(Heh. Don't we all wish we had answers!)

	04-01-2003 22:22									#5
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Current Westlake Projects

Updated January 2, 2003
(items in red are newest)

Project
Current Status*
Mac OS 8.x/9.x Mac OS X Mac Publisher

Rune: Halls of Valhalla
Available Here!
Yes No Mercenary Studios

Civilization III
In Stores!
Yes Yes MacSoft

Civilization III Game Editor
Final Candidate
No Yes MacSoft

Spider-Man™
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Unreal Tournament OS X
Preview 3
Yes Yes MacSoft

ST:V - Elite Force Expansion Pack
Available Here!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Max Payne
In Stores!
Yes Yes MacSoft

Harry Potter™ and the Sorcerer's Stone™
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Return To Castle Wolfenstein
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

The Sims Hot Date
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Star Wars® Galactic Battlegrounds™
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Star Wars® Jedi Knight® II: Jedi Outcast™
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

The Sims Vacation
In Stores!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

EverQuest®
Alpha
No Yes SOE
The Chosen One
Beta
Yes Yes ???
Dungeon Siege
Alpha
Undecided Yes Destineer/Bold

Halo: Combat Evolved
Early Development
Undecided Yes Destineer/Bold

NASCAR® Racing 2002 Season
In Stores!
No Yes Aspyr Media

Star Wars® Galactic Battlegrounds™ Clone Campaigns™
Available Here!
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

The Sims Unleashed
Gold Master
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

Harry Potter™ and the Chamber of Secrets™
Beta
Yes Yes Aspyr Media

(Projects in italics are generally code-names for unannounced games).

* - What do all these status items mean? Here's a quick key:

Early Development- A project that has just started. Early work is being done on getting low level foundation code up and running on the Mac, trying to get data files to load properly, graphics routines to draw something, etc.

Prototype- Between Early Development and First Playable, the prototype stage is far enough along to have some interface drawing and most data files loading, but not far enough to actually play.

First Playable- The point when a game has enough code up and running that you can actually play it. Many features are probably still not working, possibly including sound & music, networking, optimzations, Mac interface, save games, some 3D hardware support, etc.

Alpha- More of the game working than first playable- usually sound works, early networking code, some 3D hardware support,, and save games. Still pretty buggy, and a few features not working fully.

Beta- All game code is converted and running on the Mac, and all features of the game are implemented. This is when we start tracking and fixing bugs, and have our testers play the game extensively to find any new bugs.

Gold Master- The final CD for a game is delivered to the publisher. Usually the game will then hit the stores within 2 to 3 weeks.


Other Info:

Mac OS 8.x/9.x- The software will run under Mac OS 8.x as well as Mac OS 9.x. Most Westlake games try to support Mac OS 8.6 or later. Check the game's box or visit the Publisher's web site for exact specifications.

Mac OS X- The software will run "natively" under Mac OS X. Ie, it will not be necessary to play the game in Classic mode, and the software will take advantage of many of OS X's unique features. Most newer Westlake games try to support Mac OS X 10.1 or later. Check the game's box or visit the Publisher's web site for exact specifications.

	04-01-2003 22:23									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Vanilla Civ III? What's that? The original, unadulturated game which shipped with the 1.17 PC patch fixes already included? The current status is? 1. 1.21 patch available for Mac? 2. 1.29 patch may become a part of the PtW XP? 3. Editor and PtW only playable on X? Gatekeeper (Heh. Don't we all wish we had answers!)

hi ,

the MAC 1.21G patch ; see at hot MAC news

have a nice day

	26-01-2003 22:55									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Vanilla Civ III? What's that? The original, unadulturated game which shipped with the 1.17 PC patch fixes already included? The current status is? 1. 1.21 patch available for Mac? 2. 1.29 patch may become a part of the PtW XP? 3. Editor and PtW only playable on X? Gatekeeper (Heh. Don't we all wish we had answers!)

I think vanilla means without playing with PTW...

	27-01-2003 00:00									#8
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OK, so if I'm reading things right, the 1.21 patch has been available for the Macintosh for a long time now; the 1.29 patch will be a part of the PtW XP, which in itself will be playable only on OSX or higher; and the Mac-specific Civ III editor will be for OSX or above only. Which adds up to the fact that if you want the *full* Civ III gaming experience on the Mac, you'd better have OSX as your primary OS.

Gatekeeper

	27-01-2003 00:04									#9
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most likely...

	27-01-2003 00:33									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper OK, so if I'm reading things right, the 1.21 patch has been available for the Macintosh for a long time now; the 1.29 patch will be a part of the PtW XP, which in itself will be playable only on OSX or higher; and the Mac-specific Civ III editor will be for OSX or above only. Which adds up to the fact that if you want the *full* Civ III gaming experience on the Mac, you'd better have OSX as your primary OS. Gatekeeper

hi ,

that's right

so get that upgrade

have a nice day

	29-01-2003 12:08									#11
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My god man, there are plenty of other reasons to have OS X as well. It's freaking cool. I recently switched to it, and I'm loving every second of it.

	29-01-2003 22:16									#12
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I'll have to agree with MiloMilo there... and invite him to join the Mac civgroup...

	29-01-2003 22:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash I'll have to agree with MiloMilo there... and invite him to join the Mac civgroup...

Mac civgroup? Where?

	29-01-2003 22:40									#14
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Mac civgroup? Where?

Mac Civgroup Join link

It's also, if you look around at the top of this thread, a little "Mac civgroup-join" text as well as if you just click on "civgroups" you'll be able to join that way.

But the link I just provided should work as well.

	29-01-2003 22:42									#15
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Mac civgroup? Where?

hi ,

do you see that little mac icon on the left , click on it

have a nice mac day

	29-01-2003 23:21									#16
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , do you see that little mac icon on the left , click on it have a nice mac day

Okay, I've joined. Who shall I kill first?

	29-01-2003 23:32									#17
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dojoboy:

Our darkest nemesis is a Canadian, but for security reasons we cannot reveal his identity here. (I'm sure he'll pop up sooner or later, now that I've "called" him out ...) But he's the one you have to defeat in battle in order to join our elite and secretive Mac Civ Group.

Gatekeeper

	30-01-2003 00:10									#18
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Okay, I've joined. Who shall I kill first?

hi ,

welcome aboard

and we dont kill people here , ...


we desincintivate them

have a nice MAC day and now back to topic

	16-02-2003 07:37									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper dojoboy: Our darkest nemesis is a Canadian, but for security reasons we cannot reveal his identity here. (I'm sure he'll pop up sooner or later, now that I've "called" him out ...) But he's the one you have to defeat in battle in order to join our elite and secretive Mac Civ Group. Gatekeeper

Blasphemer! Now that you have even mentioned word of "him" "he" may appear!

	22-02-2003 22:34									#20
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The editor is now available through www.insidemacgames.com

	23-02-2003 00:21									#21
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rock on!

	23-02-2003 01:28									#22
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Blasphemer! Now that you have even mentioned word of "him" "he" may appear!

It appears that the Mac group's greatest Nemesis also has a good deal of patience, as he has yet to appear in this thread. Yes, he's a cunning Canadian, biding his time.

Either that or he's not aware we're talking trash about him. Trash, I tell ya, trash!

Gatekeeper

	23-02-2003 02:43									#23
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probably just the fact he hasb't realized it yet...

	23-02-2003 23:31									#24
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Is it just me or does the Civ 3 editor not work even when the app is in the same folder as civ 3?

	24-02-2003 04:34									#25
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quote: Originally posted by ss4johnny Is it just me or does the Civ 3 editor not work even when the app is in the same folder as civ 3?

Are you using 10.1.x or 10.2.x? It is being reported that the editor is not operational in 10.1.x. I'm using jaguar and find it functional, albeit a bit clunky.

	24-02-2003 05:00									#26
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I'll agree on the clunky factor... but it works fine otherwise... even runs on my wife's iBook and her comp doesn't support playing CivIII... go figure...

Once she's done I'll happily offer the map here... to me it'll be interesting to see if it'll be playable or not just since she doesn't know how to play the game. I promise not to tweak it at all.

	24-02-2003 17:29									#27
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Are you using 10.1.x or 10.2.x? It is being reported that the editor is not operational in 10.1.x. I'm using jaguar and find it functional, albeit a bit clunky.

hi ,

a patch is in the make , .....

should be with us around summer time , .....

have a nice day

	27-02-2003 12:18									#28
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Tried the editor ... doesn't run under my 10.1.2 .... buggers! Big dissapointment...



Anyone got it to work under 10.1 ?

	27-02-2003 12:52									#29
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^^^I think you need OS 10.2.x minimum ...

	27-02-2003 13:34									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper ^^^I think you need OS 10.2.x minimum ...

hi ,

works fine with 3 and 4 , .....

but are you sure thats the problem dust rat

have a nice day