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DiCaprio to play Alexander the Great!
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6 movies are being prepared about Alexander's life.

And Venizelos has sat his fat arse on the neck of all 6 producers

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If DiCRAPio plays AtG I won't see it...

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He looks like he has a great many bee stings in the "real thing". Maybe a rash of some form.

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i'm not sure where the greek media got the story about 6 projects. it seems that it's only 2(a Baz Luhrmann-Leonardo DiCaprio and Oliver Stone-Colin Farrell one)

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Oliver Stone - Colin Farrell... that's a good pair... I'll see that!

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meanwhile, great historians(e.g. cinema journalists) argue about the sexuality of Alexander. some say he is gay. while other confirm that he is bi(in fact, according to that historian, alexander will be the first bisexual action hero)

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Why is Decaprio mangling what Alexander looks like? Maybe we should see how he looks in the movie before making that judgment? Hollywood can do amazing things.

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Given Leo's sex symbol status with the ladies, I suppose this means they will ignore, gloss over or just lie about his deliances with men?

What crap.

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not true Markos...

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i'm not sure where the greek media got the story about 6 projects. it seems that it's only 2(a Baz Luhrmann-Leonardo DiCaprio and Oliver Stone-Colin Farrell one)


yep most of them are just plans for the time being.

Although there does seem to be a "Alexander" mania going on in the US.


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ΕΞΙ ΚΙΝΗΜΑΤΟΓΡΑΦΙΚΑ ΣΧΕΔΙΑ
Μανία... Μεγαλέξανδρου
Αίφνης ο Μέγας Αλέξανδρος έγινε πολύ της μόδας στο Χόλιγουντ. Έξι σκηνοθέτες κάνουν αγώνα δρόμου για την κινηματογραφική... ζωή του Μακεδόνα στρατηλάτη

ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣ ΙΕΡΕΙΔΗΣ
Ο Λεονάρντο Ντι Κάπριο θα είναι ο, κατά Μπαζ Λούρμαν, Μέγας Αλέξανδρος, ενώ ο Ιρλανδός Κόλιν Φάρελ (κάτω) θα ενσαρκώσει τον Μακεδόνα στρατηλάτη στην εκδοχή του Όλιβερ Στόουν. Αμφότερες οι ταινίες θα γυριστούν στο Μαρόκο

Έξι για έναν κι ένας για έξι! Μην πάει ο νους σας στους Σωματοφύλακες που κάποιος αποφάσισε να τους αυγατίσει. Απλούστατα έξι σκηνοθέτες, ανάμεσά τους ηχηρά ονόματα του Χόλιγουντ, έχουν επιδοθεί σε έναν αγώνα δρόμου για το ποιος θα κάνει ταινία με θέμα τον Μέγα Αλέξανδρο.

Ο Όλιβερ Στόουν, ο Μάρτιν Σκορσέζε, ο Ρίντλεϊ Σκοτ, ο Μπαζ Λούρμαν, αλλά και ο Μελ Γκίμπσον (ως παραγωγός) και ο Μεξικανός Αλφόνσο Αράου ζουν και ανασαίνουν με τη σκέψη να γυρίσουν καθένας ξεχωριστά ταινία για τον Μακεδόνα στρατηλάτη, που είχε κατακτήσει τα τρία τέταρτα του τότε γνωστού κόσμου.

Φαίνεται πως ήρθε το πλήρωμα του χρόνου, όπως γράφει στην εφημερίδα «Guardian» η Fiachra Gibbons, για τον πρώτο αμφοτεροφυλόφιλο ήρωα δράσης που συνήθιζε να... μεταπηδά με ευκολία από το κρεβάτι του φίλου και εραστή του Ηφαιστίωνα σε εκείνο της βασίλισσας των Αμαζόνων και στα δωμάτια των ευνούχων.

Ο Ρίντλεϊ Σκοτ με τη μεγάλη οσκαρική εισπρακτική επιτυχία «Ο μονομάχος» απέδειξε στα μεγάλα στούντιο πως η συνταγή «ξίφος - σανδάλι », η οποία ως μόδα στα τέλη της δεκαετίας του '60 ήταν «ντε πασέ», μπορεί ακόμα να πουλήσει. Ωστόσο, το απαγορευτικά υψηλό κόστος παραγωγής και το ενδεχόμενο της ήττας από τον σκληρό (και εξίσου «επώνυμο») ανταγωνισμό μεταθέτουν την έναρξη γυρισμάτων για αργότερα.

Ο Μπαζ Λούρμαν, αφού συμφώνησε με τον Σκορσέζε και είδε τον Σκοτ να ματαιώνει την παραγωγή της ταινίας του για τον Μέγα Αλέξανδρο, θα είναι κατά πάσα πιθανότητα ο πρώτος της... παρέας που θα δει τη δική του ταινία στις κινηματογραφικές αίθουσες.

Το φιλμ του Λούρμαν βασίζεται στην τριλογία του Ιταλού ιστορικού Βαλέριο Μανφρέντι. Αρχικά είχε ανακοινώσει πως τα γυρίσματα της ταινίας (που θα κοστίσει περίπου 150 εκατ. ευρώ) θα άρχιζαν νωρίς την άνοιξη, στο Μαρόκο, αφού προηγουμένως είχε πείσει τον βασιλιά Μωάμεθ ΣΤ' να του διαθέσει πέντε χιλιάδες στρατιώτες και χίλια άλογα για να αναπαραστήσει τις μάχες του Μακεδόνα στρατηλάτη. Όμως ανέβαλε τα γυρίσματα για το φθινόπωρο.

Από την άλλη, ο βετεράνος Ρίντλεϊ Σκοτ, δεδηλωμένος θαυμαστής του Μεγάλου Αλεξάνδρου από την εποχή που υπηρετούσε τη θητεία του, με έναν τολμηρό ελιγμό μπήκε στο «παιχνίδι». Μόλις πριν από ένα μήνα το σχέδιό του για την ταινία είχε βουλιάξει. Επανήλθε όμως με τον Ιρλανδό Κόλιν Φάρελ (που τον είδαμε στο «Τigerland» και εσχάτως στο «Μinority Report», δίπλα στον Τομ Κρουζ, έναν παλαιότερο «υποψήφιο» Μέγα Αλέξανδρο) στον πρωταγωνιστικό ρόλο. Ο Στόουν ευελπιστεί να ξεκινήσει τα γυρίσματα της υπερπαραγωγής του τον Ιούνιο - στο Μαρόκο επίσης και όχι στην Ινδία, όπως αρχικά είχε ανακοινώσει.

Η ιστορία του Σκοτ, όπως αφήνεται να εννοηθεί, θα είναι αιρετική και θα εστιάσει κυρίως στις θεωρίες συνωμοσίας που περιβάλλουν τη ζωή και τον θάνατο του μεγάλου κατακτητή.

Στον στίβο... Μέγας Αλέξανδρος κατεβαίνει, ως παραγωγός, και ο Μελ Γκίμπσον, ο οποίος είναι έτοιμος να γυρίσει για το αμερικανικό δίκτυο ΗΒΟ μια μίνι σειρά δέκα επεισοδίων για τη ζωή του Μακεδόνα στρατηλάτη, κόστους περίπου 120 εκατ. ευρώ.

Ο έκτος της παρέας είναι ο σκηνοθέτης της ταινίας «Σοκολάτα σε καυτό νερό». Ο Αλφόνσο Αράου επέλεξε να γυρίσει τη χαμηλού κόστους ταινία του για τον Αλέξανδρο στο Μεξικό και αναμένει να ανάψει το... πράσινο φώς για να ξεκινήσει.


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Why is Decaprio mangling what Alexander looks like?
for a start, does he convice you as someone with great fighting skills? Alexander practically lead his army into battle....
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do sex symbols in gay/bi roles attract women?

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not true Markos...
on what?

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for a start, does he convice you as someone with great fighting skills?


Have you seen Gangs of New York? I don't see why he wouldn't be considered someone with fighting skills?

Did Brad Pitt convince you as someone with great fighting skills before 'Fight Club'?

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do sex symbols in gay/bi roles attract women?


Traditionally, the perception in Hollywood is that heart throbs should avoid playing gay/bi characters lest it tarnish their "stud" image. Agents will often forbid their actors from playing gay more than once, as once is ok for broadening acting repetoire, but more than once would raise eyebrows.

Leo has played gay once before, so I doubt you'll see him do so again. Same thing with Matt Damon, Jude Law, etc. The only "heart throb" who has played a gay character more than once that I can think of is an actual gay actor, Rupert Everett.

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Imran, I wasn't convinced of Pitt's fighting skills even after Fight Club

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styled after AtG....

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yeah, the haircut

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after Morisson's own request even, if you believe some rather sensionalistic biography

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Have you seen Gangs of New York?
havent seen it (not in greece yet)

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havent seen that either

but we're talking war with heavy weapons here, not fist fighting....

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well, i never thought Leo had a "stud" image....
what was his gay role?

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BTW, in the latest issue of Empire ( a british cinema magazine, the largest one of its kind in the UK actually) there is an interview of Oliver Stone.

He says there is no "gay thing" in the movie.


Just some referance about bi, which of course does not encapsulate the life of AtG, defines or limits him at justthat.



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I doubt he was bi/gay. He was Macedonian.

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He was...

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Total Eclipse. He played bisexual poet Arthur Rimbaud.

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So Paiktis, they will film in Morroco?

It was interesting in the article that they may get 5,000 soldiers to play the armies!

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Yes, in Morroco. It seems it is very much cheaper there.

Hmm will they get so many? Or just computer animate them like they did in LOTR?

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Are you telling me they didn't have 10,000 people in orc outfits in the Two Towers? Cha.

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Nah, that was in your dream...

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Yes, in Morroco. It seems it is very much cheaper there.
I think world events might have also played a part as far as India is concerned.

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Depends on the director's ego, but 5,000 men would make a spectaular display, better then a simulation, wouldn't you think?

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In a 1950s Italian version of Les Miserables, the director got 2,000 extras to do the street fighting between the student rebels and the French National Guardsmen.

The result was some spectacular scenes, and many many many injured extras, some quite seriously.

 
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