05-01-2003 00:33									#1
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I've told Spiffor three or four times already, and he never seems to hear it: when flipping, it doesn't matter what civ the pop point belongs to, AS LONG AS IT IS NOT APOLYTONIAN!

Sticking French slaves in Germany will increase the flip risk just as much as German slaves. And so on.

	05-01-2003 02:54									#2
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proof ?

	05-01-2003 03:07									#3
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Basically we're arguing about the meaning behind the wording. Can't we just ask the guy who wrote the culture flip FAQ?
IIRC it was Alexman who wrote the thread. He's on my team in the PtW demogame so I could PM him if you'd like.

	05-01-2003 03:17									#4
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Yes please do, Shiber

	05-01-2003 03:19									#5
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This is a far more heated topic that I realized.

	05-01-2003 03:23									#6
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Ask DeepO, he seems to be an expert in culture flipping.

	05-01-2003 03:26									#7
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Btw, AFAIK it does matter what civ the pop point belongs to. A city may flip (because of foerign nationalities) only to civs from the same nationality. (without overlapping tiles to other civs, of course).

Don't quote me though on this one.

	05-01-2003 05:04									#8
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I remember when Firaxis released the culture flip mechanics, they said foreign pop points. If they didn't think to distinguish it there, they probably didn't think to in the programming.

	05-01-2003 23:00									#9
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Alexman's answer:

quote: Well, I'm not the one who did the work on Culture flipping (Fitz started the thread, and I think DeepO did some work on it, actually), but I can answer your question. In your example, the French workers are a risk for the city to flip to France only. The chances for a flip to Germany are not affected by joining French workers. --Alex

	05-01-2003 23:06									#10
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Oops

I'm sorry for causing all this ruckus.

	06-01-2003 01:25									#11
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker I've told Spiffor three or four times already, and he never seems to hear it: when flipping, it doesn't matter what civ the pop point belongs to, AS LONG AS IT IS NOT APOLYTONIAN! Sticking French slaves in Germany will increase the flip risk just as much as German slaves. And so on.

hi ,

, try out a couple games , sometimes putting workers or settlers from an other civ then yours in a captured city helps that city to stay on your side , especially if those workers belong to a small civ or to a friendly civ , .....

however just to be save ; we should not put any foreign workers in german cities for as long as not more the sixty percent of them have joined us , so let that city grow , the more it grows the more children with our identity cards are born , the faster the other citizens in that city shall join us , .....

have a nice day

	06-01-2003 03:35									#12
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Shiber : thanks for the answer (please thank Alexman on my behalf too ). I'm much more eased, and I will now integrate French and American workers as if there's no tomorrow
More seriously, it allows me to do as I thinked beforhand (i.e putting Greeks at the English border, and putting Germans at the Russian border), and will considerably ease the worker integration project.

	06-01-2003 22:00									#13
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The major advantage of freeing slaves of deceased nations first is we know that they won't be protesting our attacking their motherland.

	08-01-2003 21:52									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Shiber : thanks for the answer (please thank Alexman on my behalf too ). I'm much more eased, and I will now integrate French and American workers as if there's no tomorrow More seriously, it allows me to do as I thinked beforhand (i.e putting Greeks at the English border, and putting Germans at the Russian border), and will considerably ease the worker integration project.

hi ,

why do we have to put them at the borders , there is room near the palace , ....

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	09-01-2003 00:08									#15
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Panag : I will integrate workers first in palace centric / FP centric cities, but the remaining workes will go to more remote cities (especially Macross and Ferropolis)
If there are more workers, they'll go to definitely more remote places, near the border.
I have more time now, and most of the plan should be ready by tomorrow (although I might be a bit drunk tonight)

	09-01-2003 00:20									#16
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Are you going to run for DM again? (please do!)

	09-01-2003 00:25									#17
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Realistically, since the centric cities will have their Hospitals first, just pop rush each city when it's Hospital finnishes. I know it is simplistic, but you cannot go beyond size 12 till the Hospital is baked.

	09-01-2003 01:21									#18
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Pop-rush? In a Democracy? I don't think the people would approve.
Roadcage, you're not turning commie on us, are you?

Seriously, by 'pop rushing' you meant joining workers into the cities right?

	09-01-2003 01:43									#19
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I'm sorry, I won't run for DM again. I know the 2nd term will be far less time consuming than my first (with experienced RAs and almost no PW to do), but I really would like to take time for myself, sorry

	09-01-2003 01:56									#20
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

by pop rush I mean add back workers rapidly

	10-01-2003 02:07									#21
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Panag : I will integrate workers first in palace centric / FP centric cities, but the remaining workes will go to more remote cities (especially Macross and Ferropolis) If there are more workers, they'll go to definitely more remote places, near the border. I have more time now, and most of the plan should be ready by tomorrow (although I might be a bit drunk tonight)

hi ,

we should be carefull as not to add to many at far away places in one time , ......

have a nice day