05-01-2003 06:32									#1
	Captain Beefheart - god? Tired of ads?

Ok so God may be coming on a bit strong, but according to my subconcious Mr Van Vliet is the most important and influential musician of the past 50 years. Anyone care to suggest otherwise, or even agree?

	05-01-2003 06:35									#2
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How is your hard drive?

	05-01-2003 06:43									#3
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Um.. fine. If you're refering to my potencial new HDD, I haven't bought it yet.

BTW, why do you have the union flag and claim to be from the US.

P.S. Fast'n'bulbous! That's right, the mascera snake. Fast'n'bulbous, also a tin tear-drop. Bulbous also tapered. That's right.

	05-01-2003 06:45									#4
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I am a 100% USAer.

The Union Jack is a tribute to you Brits who were the first ones to come and get our backs after Sept. 11th. That is a true friend.

	05-01-2003 06:53									#5
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quote: The Union Jack is a tribute to you Brits who were the first ones to come and get our backs after Sept. 11th. That is a true friend.

Also a sure sign of weakness and dependancy, depending how you look at it

This is a Beefheart thread goddamnit. More must be said about the great man.

	05-01-2003 07:03									#6
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Yeah I can see that angle. Certainly though the US is somewhat just as dependent on UK diplomacy, which gives it a certain air of "legitimacy" around the world, when the UK backs us up. Though this legitimacy seems to have eroded in the past 2 years as people now lump the US/UK as being the same thing.

I know alot of people see Blair as a weak puppy dog that follows Bush around.

But in regards to Sept. 11th, the symbolic gestures specifically made by the British public were all very appreciated by the Americans as a people.

I don't even know who Beefheart is.

	05-01-2003 09:40									#7
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Hmm... true it is a mutually dependent relationship, and I do take your point on the gestures of the british public... but the US is very much the dominator in the relaship, something many brits don't like too much.

Captain Beefheart: educate yourself

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=11:36:07|PM&sql=Bfe5zefrkhgf8

(hope the link works)

	05-01-2003 09:45									#8
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quote: The owner of a remarkable four-and-one-half octave vocal range.

I will have to sample some of this Captain Beefheart.

	05-01-2003 09:52									#9
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I know this girl who likes Captain Beefheart. She's wicked hot.

	05-01-2003 10:00									#10
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Ted, try his first albumn; Safe As Milk.

After that it just gets very very wierd. Or avant-garde, depending how you look at it. The man is a miracle.

Monolith, she hot AND likes Beefheart. You got a number?

	05-01-2003 10:05									#11
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You up for a sex-change?
Actually last I heard she was bi whatever.

	05-01-2003 10:52									#12
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Trout Mask Replica is pure twisted genius. Witty, inventive, "fleetingly obnoxious", beautiful, mad, hilarious, it is "fast and bulbous, tight also."

review: http://classicrock.about.com/librar...blbeefheart.htm

Trout Mask Replica lyrics: http://www.freewebs.com/teejo/lyrics/trout1.html

DACHAU BLUES

dachau blues those poor jews [2x]
down in dachau blues [2x]
still crying about the buming back in world war two's
one mad man six million lose
down in dachau blues [2x]
dachau blues, dachau blues those poor jews
the world can't forget that misery
and the young ones now begging the old ones
please to stop being madmen
before they have to tell their children
about the buming back in world war three's
war one was balls and powder and blood and snow
war two rained death and showers and skeletons
danced and screaming and dying in the ovens
cough and smoke and dying by the dozens
down in dachau blues [2x]
three little children with doves on their shoulders
their eyes rolled back in ecstasy crying
please old man stop this misery
they're counting out the devil
with two fingers on their hands
begging the lord don't let the third one land
on world war three [2x]


OLD FART AT PLAY

pappy with the khaki sweatband
bowed goat potbellied barnyard
that only he noticed
the old fart was smart
the old gold cloth madonna
dancing to the fiddle and saw
he ran down behind the knoll
and slipped on his wooden fishhead
the mouth worked and snapped all the bees
back to the bungalow
momma was flattening lard
with her red enamelled rolling pin
when the fishhead broke the window
rubber eye erect and precisely detailed
airholes from which breath should come
is now closely fit
with the chatter of the old fart inside

an assortment of observations took place:
momma licked her lips like a cat
pecked the ground like a rooster
pivoted like aduck
her stockings down caught dust and doughballs
she cracked her mouth glazed caught one eyelash
rubbed her hands on her gorgeous gingham
her hand grasped sticky metal intricate latchwork
open to the room a smell cold mixed with bologna
rubber bands crumpled wax paper bonnets
fat goose legs and special jellies
ignited by the warmth of the room
the old fart smelled this through his important breather holes
cleverly he dialled from within
from the outside we observed that the nose of the
wooden mask where the holes had just been a moment ago
was now smooth amazingly blended camouflaged in
with the very intricate rainbow trout replica

the old fart inside was now breathing freely
from his perfume bottle atomizer air bulb invention
his excited eyes from within the dark interior glazed
watered in appreciation of his thoughtful preparation

	05-01-2003 10:58									#13
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quote: You up for a sex-change? Actually last I heard she was bi whatever.

Surely bi signifies swinging both ways, one of which I am.

Thanks for the support, MosesPresley

	05-01-2003 11:17									#14
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No problem.

I found a quote from Captain Beefheart. I kinda liked it.

The Capt. says "some monster in me is responsible for it, this boredom puzzle I present as music."

	05-01-2003 11:24									#15
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quote: "some monster in me is responsible for it, this boredom puzzle I present as music."

I love it!

	05-01-2003 14:15									#16
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The problem with Beefheart is that his most novel work (Trout Mask, etc) was so novel that it's become a bit of a sacred cow, and that clouds the fact that a lot of the songs on it aren't very good- bordering on self-indulgent and unlistenable crap in places.

As a straight blues singer he was dynamite, but that's hardly being innovative or influential.

	05-01-2003 17:44									#17
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Safe as Milk is a gorgeous, gorgeous album expansively incorporating lots of lovely genres in a brilliant, interesting way.

Then Zappa, that bastard, got hold of him.

	06-01-2003 00:43									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Safe as Milk is a gorgeous, gorgeous album expansively incorporating lots of lovely genres in a brilliant, interesting way. Then Zappa, that bastard, got hold of him.

Trout Mask Replica is what happens when two mad geniuses get together. Safe as Milk is a wonderful album too.

	06-01-2003 16:17									#19
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quote: The problem with Beefheart is that his most novel work (Trout Mask, etc) was so novel that it's become a bit of a sacred cow, and that clouds the fact that a lot of the songs on it aren't very good- bordering on self-indulgent and unlistenable crap in places.

It's a fair point to make Laz, but nevertheless a good many people think Trout Mask is one of the greatest albumns ever made, myself included. For years I found it physically painful to listen to when it was forced on me in friend's houses... I eventually borrowed it to listen to on my own and slowly slowly fell madly in love with it. There is not one bad note played on the whole albumn, it all connects, geegegeegehheeeeehhhhhhh.

quote: Then Zappa, that bastard, got hold of him.

I was under the impression the circumstances were quite different.... Beefheart and Zappa were long time friends but although Zappa produced Trout Mask Replica all the music was written by Beefheart, and Zappa didn't really dig a lot of it.

	07-01-2003 03:49									#20
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Graag, I had a similar experience.

When I first bought Trout Mask Replica (TMR), I immediately put it on my stereo and listened to all four sides straight through. I got such a headache. I vowed I would never listen to it again.

But, since the record was so strange, I would play some of the songs for friends when they came to visit. Everyone I played it for agreed it was strange, but the music was solidly performed. The album had a magnetic quality. I couldn't ignore it for too long. I had to listen to it.

Now, here it is seventeen years since I first bought TMR and I still listen to my favorite cuts regularly, but now on CD.

Listening to TMR the first time compares well to my first taste of Scotch. The first time the flavor is overwhelming and struck me as as offensive, but on subsequent tastings, I overcame the shock and settled into enjoying the taste very much.

	07-01-2003 04:52									#21
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quote: Listening to TMR the first time compares well to my first taste of Scotch. The first time the flavor is overwhelming and struck me as as offensive, but on subsequent tastings, I overcame the shock and settled into enjoying the taste very much.

Good analagy... an aquired taste, certainly. I'm very surprised so few apolytoners have heard of him (let alone like him!)