05-01-2003 22:28									#1
	Huge terract in downtown Tel-Aviv. Scores dead Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Two suicide bombers rip downtown Tel Aviv, an area near a building preivously serving as a Bus Depot and now a shopping center.

The center is targetting weaker population and is always packed with foreign workers (from east europe and south east asia).

Current statistics talk about 20 dead (may or may not include 1 of the suicide bombers) and dozens upon dozens of injured, 9 of them in critical condition.

The traffic is jammed and ambulances could hardly come through. Many injured people were transported using private cars and taxis.

No responsibility taken yet - but all sources say it's apparently Hamas or Islamic Jihad.

This comes as Hamas and Arafat recently blew up talks about an Egyptian draft calling for a 6 month long period of cease fire.

Egyptians wanted the whole terror campaign to stop, Arafat wanted only to diminish terracts within the green line (Israel proper) and Hamas wanted to keep it's status and feared the 6 months long quiet will dwindle intifada support on the streets (Israeli and Palestinian public would exit state of shock and begin peace probing).



Saying all that - I'm scheduled to go to Tel-Aviv tommorow morning for security checkup for the IDF.

Last edited by Sirotnikov on 05-01-2003 at 23:28

	05-01-2003 22:30									#2
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Good luck in Tel Aviv, Siro.

	05-01-2003 22:58									#3
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Israel will have a tough job retaliating.

1. a balance must be kept before the elections.

2. the last few weeks have already seen an increase in IDF anti-terror activity titled by army commentators "picking the ripe fruits of successfull intelligence operations". There's not much where to escalate without risking serious mess.

3. No unity government to support a move politically. Immediate criticism from all sides of political spectrum.

4. Progress in Israel-Britain talks about the ME.

5. Israel is expected not to be drawn into a harsh reaction so that not to cause a PR mess and cause postponing of possible anti-Iraqi actions.

	05-01-2003 23:00									#4
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UPDATE:

MASSIVE POLICE HUNT AFTER A BLACK HONDA CIVIC SEEN RACING FROM THE PLACE OF THE EVENT. CAR APPARENTLY HEADING TOWARDS WEST BANK.

	05-01-2003 23:02									#5
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MORE NEWS:

The Israeli missile to air defense system "Arrow" developed by Israel and funded by USA was tested today for the first time against several targets at once, and successfully terminated them all, using 4 missiles.

American experts reported to have taken part in observing the experiments.

	05-01-2003 23:03									#6
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MORE BACKGROUND:

There was a high alert yesterday for a terract in Jerusalem. No such alert for Tel-Aviv. Intelligence agencies report of huge efforts in the last days to send out successfull terrorist attacks, moreso than before.

	05-01-2003 23:04									#7
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20 dead.

HYD.

	05-01-2003 23:10									#8
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HYD?

	05-01-2003 23:11									#9
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wait, somebody dropped off the suicide bomber and drove away?

what function does a "driver" serve in the jihad? is that one of the auto-heaven jobs?

good job with the arrow system. now you just got to wait for the suicide bombers to jump.

	05-01-2003 23:13									#10
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HFS. Really sorry, guys. Sure sucks to live in there...

	05-01-2003 23:13									#11
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that sucks...

	05-01-2003 23:15									#12
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Stay safe, Siro, and everyone else there.

	05-01-2003 23:24									#13
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Eli it is wierd to see the smilies in your avatar next to the content of your post.

	05-01-2003 23:27									#14
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quote: HYD?

Ha-Shem Ynkom Damam - The Lord shall avenge their blood.

It's accepted to say it for people who have been unjustly killed in a devious way.

quote: wait, somebody dropped off the suicide bomber and drove away?

Well they didn't just strolled there from the west bank.

quote: what function does a "driver" serve in the jihad? is that one of the auto-heaven jobs?

A driver can also be the same person who mentally prepares the terrorists.

quote: good job with the arrow system. now you just got to wait for the suicide bombers to jump.

I actually laughed.

It's again Scud and Katyusha missiles.

	05-01-2003 23:29									#15
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quote: HFS

?

Edan - please log onto ICQ.

	05-01-2003 23:34									#16
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And I am flying to middle east tommorow...

	05-01-2003 23:43									#17
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quote: It's again Scud and Katyusha missiles.

Not Katyushas. They fly to low for the Arrow and they dont cause enough damage to waste a 1 million $ missile to shoot one down.

	06-01-2003 00:08									#18
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Very sorry to hear this Stay safe, guys.

btw: HFS sounded like holy ****ing **** to me...but could be wrong...

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The madness continues...and here I thought things had quieted down a little.

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov The madness continues...and here I thought things had quieted down a little.

blah blah blah quietest before the storm blah blah blah

Siro: at least you can laugh. it's not a very humorous topic

	06-01-2003 02:24									#21
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I am absolutely convinced that a perminent wall and a population exchange is the only way to stop the Arab facists. Arabs on one side and Jews on the other and the two should never mix not even to let one side in for work.

That is the only way to gaurantee an end to the facists' attacks.

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Oerdin, you are mixing up the truth. Jews are fascists in Israel, not Arabs. Situation is something like with whites/blacks under Aparthaid in RSA. Arabs are being prosecuted, they fights back and this is their right. It would be something the same as if Jews would done terror acts against Hitler - I doubt many people would have called that bad...

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*******.

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Azazel, was that directed to me?

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yes.

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quote: Originally posted by Sonic Oerdin, you are mixing up the truth. Jews are fascists in Israel, not Arabs. Situation is something like with whites/blacks under Aparthaid in RSA. Arabs are being prosecuted, they fights back and this is their right. It would be something the same as if Jews would done terror acts against Hitler - I doubt many people would have called that bad...

Ok, I'll take the troll. The Arab Facists (IJ, Hamas, Hezboluh, etc) wishes to kill single member of the other side while the Isrealis have offered several times to end the conflict in exchange for a promise to stop the terror attacks.

One side doesn't intentionally attack civilians while the other targets nothing but civilians. One side wishes to set up an Islamic state and imprision political and religious desenters the other wishes to have to truly democratic state.

Make no mistake about it the Arabs terror groups are the same as Hitler, Tojo, and Mousolini. They are facists who wish to kill and oppress everyone who is not like them to the best of their abilities.

	06-01-2003 02:44									#27
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Death toll is up to 22, plus the bombers, with 100+ injured.

Both Islamic Jihad and Fatah's Al Aqsa Martyrs brigade claimed to be responsible.

	06-01-2003 02:46									#28
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Israel offered to end everything? Yes, but their offers were extremely bad.

Israel attacks and kills civilians, over 3 times more of them than Palestinians does in fact.

No, Arabs are like Jews in WW2 or Blacks under apartheid. They are being oppressed, their relatives killed, their houses destroyed, their cities invaded, they are being deported to refugee (read - concentration) camps. Who wouldn't become terrorists under such conditions?

I am travelling to Dubai today, hopefully I'll see more supporters of my opinion there .

	06-01-2003 02:47									#29
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BTW, any independence is better than any occupation, especially such cruel as Israeli one. Palestinians doesn't has democracy anyway (almost).

	06-01-2003 02:48									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Sonic Oerdin, you are mixing up the truth. Jews are fascists in Israel, not Arabs. Situation is something like with whites/blacks under Aparthaid in RSA. Arabs are being prosecuted, they fights back and this is their right. It would be something the same as if Jews would done terror acts against Hitler - I doubt many people would have called that bad...

Right, cause the Israeli's are sending the palestinians to death camps are exterminating them as quickly as they can, while the peaceful Palestinians are taking careful aim to only target military targets?



Learn a bit of history before making wildly inflammatory comments.