06-01-2003 07:55									#1
	Colonization: Is it worth it? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I just got a copy of Colonization from my cousin with no rule book. I've played Civs and Smax for years, but just cannot seem to get into this game. People seem to enjoy it, and I think I might, but even trying to figure it out bores me. I find the interface confusing as hell. Should I invest more time in this game? Is there something I'm missing?

	07-01-2003 03:11									#2
	Colonization worth it? Hell yes! Full PM-box? Change here!

I bought it when it came out--on floppy drives. It is STILL on my computer (works fine with Win98). I think Col is WAY better than Civ3 out of the box, and would love to see an updated version. Don't play the Windows 3.1 version of Col, it's buggier than an ant farm.

Tips--the founding fathers are just like the wonders, liberty bells are like light bulbs. Do NOT try to spread like the Borg the way you do with Civ. Concentrate on a few STRONG, POWERFUL, WELL DEFENDED cities to win the War of Independence. IMO, the War of Independence elevates Col above Civ--it keeps you interested to the very end.

	07-01-2003 04:02									#3
	Re: Colonization worth it? Hell yes! Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by HolyWarrior Tips--the founding fathers are just like the wonders, liberty bells are like light bulbs. Do NOT try to spread like the Borg the way you do with Civ. Concentrate on a few STRONG, POWERFUL, WELL DEFENDED cities to win the War of Independence. IMO, the War of Independence elevates Col above Civ--it keeps you interested to the very end.

Thanks, I'll give it another go.

	08-01-2003 16:45									#4
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It requires quite a lot of planning in selecting the city locations. Generally I try to locate my colonies so that there are conifer trees and mountains/hills nearby (thus sufficient wood & ore->tools production)

About the founding fathers:
It's interesting that you have the access to all founding fathers in the beginning. With luck you can have all those cool fathers right away (like hernan cortez).

	10-01-2003 16:29									#5
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Perhaps you can find a copy of the rules online. Try Underdogs. It's a fun game.

	13-01-2003 00:01									#6
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You should definately give it a try. It's one of the better games I know of. And I still play the old DOS version sometimes.

	13-01-2003 06:49									#7
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I think it's one of the best games. I used to play it a lot. And actually I installed it about a month ago on my new laptop, and gave it a go. Definitely worth a try.

I think there is the manual available for download in pdf format somewhere. It might help. Let me see if I can find a link.

	13-01-2003 06:57									#8
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Got the link to the manual

http://www.replacementdocs.com/docs...dex.php?skip=50

I remember it was really helpful to read it back in the days.

	13-01-2003 06:59									#9
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Thanks everybody. I've put a little more tought into the game and and definitely starting to get into it. Usually I try to figure out a game without the manual, but this time I was really confused. I think I've got the hang of it now.

	13-01-2003 08:55									#10
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Glad you are getting in to the game. And I must say that Col is one of the very few games that actually read the manual for. So you are not the only one.

	14-01-2003 13:43									#11
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Go for it, I like Col as much as I liked Civ and unlike most Civ games it keeps you interested until the end. I wish they would make a new version .

So long...

	14-01-2003 13:58									#12
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I wish I still had my copy of this game. It was fun but the AI is very primative and the game is fairly simple to beat. Still I more then got my money's worth when this game came out.

	15-01-2003 14:52									#13
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Unfortunately, the game wont work on NT. Booo, hooo hooo!
Is there any way around it?

	15-01-2003 15:02									#14
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Daz - yes there is. Change your OS

	15-01-2003 19:54									#15
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Daz, if you have a FAT partition on your hard disk you can put the game there and then boot DOS from a diskette and still play the game. If you dont have a FAT partition you will need special drivers like ntfsdos ....

	19-01-2003 06:16									#16
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i quite enjoyed colonization, though i found it very easy to beat....the game has nice concepts

	20-01-2003 18:24									#17
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Very well put War4ever! That'S why I hope that they will eventually come around to have a remake of it! I would love to see this game again!

	20-01-2003 21:22									#18
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Colonization 2 - The best game never made.

	21-01-2003 13:19									#19
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There is still hope, SD..eeeh...BC!

I actually like your previous avatars better since I like her a lot!

So long..

	21-01-2003 13:22									#20
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BC, your avatar is tasty, but it should read 'Poly Waffle...

	22-01-2003 20:53									#21
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In an interview a few months back Sid did say Colonization 2 may come out some day. Thats when he got the rights to Pirates and MOM and those older games he worked on.

Plus the Colonies 2 project is still working.

	22-01-2003 21:16									#22
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I've still got my copy, and still play it occasionally. I got the CD version...oooo-ahhh....

I think it's one of the most original and most promising games ever. If Sid made a new one I would buy it without even bothering to look at the reviews. It's worth it.

One of the better games out there, especially from the time period....

Meshelic

PS - SID MAKE COLONIZATION TWO!!!!!

	22-01-2003 22:17									#23
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Ditto!

quote: Originally posted by Meshelic I've still got my copy, and still play it occasionally. I got the CD version...oooo-ahhh.... I think it's one of the most original and most promising games ever. If Sid made a new one I would buy it without even bothering to look at the reviews. It's worth it. One of the better games out there, especially from the time period.... Meshelic PS - SID MAKE COLONIZATION TWO!!!!!

	26-01-2003 04:05									#24
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i quite like to play colonization, more so than old civ 1, but not when i first got civ 1

	26-01-2003 04:49									#25
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quote: Originally posted by aaglo BC, your avatar is tasty, but it should read 'Poly Waffle...

But the sweet is called Polly Waffle.

Anyway, it was starting to annoy me, so I've gone for an avatar of the glorious Kent countryside.

	29-01-2003 04:46									#26
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Man, I love this game. Probably haven't played it in over a year, but it's claimed more of my life than all three Civ's combined. Biggest knock on it, IMHO, was the thoroughly anemic AI, for which the game compensated by excessive cheating, which led to some very wonky strategies for dealing with the other European powers. [Anybody remember setting up perimeters of petty criminals around your land to keep the other guy from setting dragoons all over your roads? Storming his pop 14, 100% SoL colony to keep him from revolution, taking most of the goods and colonists home and then leaving the colony undefended for him to take back so it wouldn't be your responsibility in your revolution? Good times.]

But, speaking of Colonization 2, I thought I'd let the folks following this thread know that there's a band of people trying to build an unofficial one, sort of a la Clash of Civilizations, though nowhere near as developed as that project. I used to follow the Colonization 2 project and give it my input quite regularly, but real life gets so intrusive.

Anyway, it's called The Colonization 2 Project and it's over at www.civgaming.net. I know they're looking for new blood (as activity seems to have dwindled to a devoted few over the past couple months) and I'm pretty sure just about every game feature is still open for discussion. Thought I'd pass that along for the fellow Colonization freaks out there.

Dan