07-01-2003 17:38									#1
	PTW is really bad addon Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

First i want to excuse my english!

I think civ3 is on of the best games ever, but the multiplayer mode is soooo terrible.

Because every new round there was a disconnect maybe a player is timed out.

You cant see your units moves, or there is a very long delay in movment.

You need one hour to play 5 rounds in age about 0.

Many bugs as well, like the text problem in diplomacy, or if i chnage knowledge - programm dont kill changed knowledge.

i cant see a technical reason for this problems on producer side - cause 30 Euro are much money for a addon!

And all 3 player have very good Computer and a flat adsl!

Sorry for this ****! but its true --> in this state it is a bad game

	07-01-2003 18:40									#2
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That sounds pretty bad. Perhaps, you should post this in the appropriate forum

	07-01-2003 23:46									#3
	Support Apolyton

I.E. here

	08-01-2003 00:42									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy I.E. here

Somehow I think Frozzy is right.

The CTP-multiplaying forum MIGHT be the best place to publich such feelings afterall .

I fell still less and less for buying the PTW add-on, when it comes to Denmark. Even though we can play a PBEM-game.

But still - I am not sure what to do..............

	08-01-2003 02:40									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Moved.

	08-01-2003 03:15									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Acutally it is a pretty bad addon for MP. SP is quite nice though. I played with a friend that brought over his laptop, we linked our computers up and started a simo. game. Right from the get-go there is a ton of lag, each time to move a unit it takes about 1 full second before you see the unit move, most units have 3 movement on road so it really adds up, and this is with a 5 ping! I not playing another online game until this issue is fixed. Moving an army takes way too long. Small maps are key.
Theyve got the right idea, lets just see it work... please.

PS: Playing against the AI in simo. mode is a little wierd. They always get to go first at the beginning of the round which is suppose to happen while I go, but I cant click on an offensive unit to attack the AI before he uses his to attack me. This style game should actually be called "AI first, Humans Simo." :/

	08-01-2003 04:05									#7
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Acutally it is a pretty bad addon for MP

PBEM is good fun too, a few quirks that still need to be worked, but other then that

quote: PS: Playing against the AI in simo.

I was under the impression this wasn't possible

Anyway, none of the new modes (regicide, etc,..) is supposed to be played with the AI on. It just can't handle it and was never (really) optimised for it.

	08-01-2003 21:56									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Not so bad as an add-on. SP features are OK, PBEM is fine (better with the last patch) and the AI enhancements in SP are OK too.

But some of the MP modes still need a lot of work.

	09-01-2003 01:15									#9
	Support Apolyton

"I was under the impression this wasn't possible"

You can play against the AI in similtanious mode, but yer right, there is a mode in which you cant include AI. Im to tired to think right now. >_<


PS: In that 5 ping game I was playing with my friend (LAN), after each turn as the AI got bigger and bigger, there was this box that would pop-up and saying "WAITING FOR OTHER PLAYER" and start counting down from 60 I think. At first it would only count down a couple of seconds before letting us play, but then it got worse and worse, becoming 15-20 seconds. Finally, our game was almost over anyways, it counted down about 30 seconds and then said "LOST CONNECTION". Im no computer genous, but how the hell can you lose a connection on a LAN?!?! I suppose I know the answer... programming.