08-01-2003 00:11									#1
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quote: He [Blunkett] said those who made music [the companies] which glamorised gun violence would be made aware of "what is and isn't acceptable".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2632343.stm

I think Blunkett is a mad baboon. Now he's telling people what they can and can't say. And there was me thinking we lived in a country that at least had the illusion of freedom.

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What I especially got upset about was him calling occasional geniuses "idiots".

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Sometimes people need to recognize posturing for what it is...

	08-01-2003 00:32									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed What I especially got upset about was him calling occasional geniuses "idiots".

The guy is entitled to his opinion, no matter how stupid, but it makes me very uneasy when home secretaries talk about telling people what is "unacceptable" to say.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Sometimes people need to recognize posturing for what it is...

Agreed it is posturing, he has no intention of actually censoring speech, but those are, IMHO, dangerous words.

	08-01-2003 00:50									#6
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We all know that Blunkett is a little authoritarian, he is strongly in favour of identity cards, telling you what naughty words you can and can't listen to and he wants to control your mind with special chemicals (well alright, I made that bit up, but it could be true ). We all know when Blunkett plays SMAC what social engineering decision he makes after discovering 'The Will To Power'

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Yeah, but you expect them to be moralists, not ****ing critics. Let them go through the motions of moral panic, they always do and it results in nothing, but don't have them go around dissin' Rap Music while in their official role, y'hear?

I thought Keith Jowells was being inappropriate already when talking about Conceptual Art.

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oh no, ID cards!!!!

	08-01-2003 01:03									#9
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What's the problem? He's just stated an opinion and said that rappers glamourising gun culture might get mildly scolded.

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Government officials shouldn't dictate what's good music and what isn't. I could care less about the gun lyric moral panic, just keep the hands of my bands while in an official role, man.

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he didn't dictate anything.

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David Blunkett has never been one to jump on bandwagons...

	08-01-2003 04:12									#13
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He pours petrol on bandwagons and sets fire to them, laughing in a maniacal manner

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Yeah he is led by the Daily Mail and the Sun editorials, which as a Labour minister has always struck me as slightly bizarre.

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He is like Bodds

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Not quite that far to the right, but getting there...

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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Yeah he is led by the Daily Mail and the Sun editorials, which as a Labour minister has always struck me as slightly bizarre.

There is much truth in this statement... IMHO the reason the Tory party have crumbled quite so astoundingly is because Labour are basically doing what they've done for years, but with bolder policies, shinyer teeth and better haircuts.

Since the lefty party appears righty, and the opposition has no position, it looks to me like time for the Liberals to ascend...

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quote: oh no, ID cards!!!!

ID cards are not good. Even people that the left brand 'authoritarian', like Reagan, were/are opposed to them.

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Gee, what a shock. Strict gun control measures are passed (so strict that the British Olympians have to go to France to practice), and there is a sharp rise in gun crimes. At least this guy is partially on the right track in one sense, that behaviors cause social problems, not inanimate objects. Passing laws will do very little to curb anti-social behavior.

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What's wrong with ID cards?

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Reagan was against them.

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Somehow I don't believe you...

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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Gee, what a shock. Strict gun control measures are passed (so strict that the British Olympians have to go to France to practice), and there is a sharp rise in gun crimes.

Cite?

quote: Originally posted by Sikander At least this guy is partially on the right track in one sense, that behaviors cause social problems, not inanimate objects.

So, by your logic then, why restrict people from owning chemcial and nuclear weapons? Afterall, they aren't part of the equation, right?