08-01-2003 13:35									#1
	Assassinated?!! SLAIN?!! Got spare money?

This seems like a bug to me(MOO 1), not sure. While I'm playing the game, I've had 3 instances where one of those ship quizzes will come up, I'll answer them, and then the next thing; GNN news says that I've been assassinated or slain and that my last colony has fallen. GAME OVER. WTF?!! And there are no enemy ships in any of my territories, colonies(and I had plenty of them) when this happens. Is this a bug or something? How can I just lose the game like that when there were no apparent threats around?

	08-01-2003 15:12									#2
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It is copy protection. You got the question wrong, so the game kills you off.

Either crack the game, or answer the questions correctly.
There is a sheet with all the ship names attached to one of the threads in this forum...

	08-01-2003 20:57									#3
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I think it is also on Sullivan's website.

	08-01-2003 22:43									#4
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Here is a novel thought, the answers are in the manual. Oh, I forgot you would have to have bought the game.
Anyway it has been posted at least twice, once by me.

	09-01-2003 00:27									#5
	Got spare money?

Wow, a Moo-Newbie, actually!
In the first place I could do it without anything.
Just save your game frequently. The copy protection is not bound to a special turn # so it will always be at a random time. Try to remember when you answered right.

I bought Moo 2 but when Moo 1 came out I still was a kid and got it from a friend who bought it. Later I also got the manual from him to draw the ships on a sheet of paper. I really wish I still had it, not because I don't remember the ships, but because it was done with much love, and even colored!

	09-01-2003 05:48									#6
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Here is a novel thought, the answers are in the manual. Oh, I forgot you would have to have bought the game. Anyway it has been posted at least twice, once by me.

Unfortunately a lot of re-released games have pdf manuals and, in some cases, the alt-tab to access them mid-game just doesn't work.
I do have the darned thing in its original form but find it irritating to have to hunt it down right in the middle of a fight, so I generally just take a guess and hope one of my 3 chances is one of the ships I know.

	09-01-2003 07:05									#7
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I have pdf and real manuals, but I rarely miss more than one guess. If is goes to the third, I will looked it (usually).

	09-01-2003 08:20									#8
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They have republished MoO on CD? I still have my 5 1/4" diskettes somewhere. After awhile you get to remember all the ships and their names.

	09-01-2003 17:58									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I have MoO on cd, along with XCom UFO. And I bought this years ago.

	09-01-2003 20:29									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Oh. Don't mind me.

	09-01-2003 22:43									#11
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UR, I burned the diskettes to a CD and that is what I use, even though I have a CD version as well. It seems the CD version does not always run with out the CD. I also applied the patch to the diskette before I burned it. My current machine does not have 3.5 disk.
Anyway I have run into problems with diskettes not be readable in some macines.

	10-01-2003 05:29									#12
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns I have MoO on cd, along with XCom UFO. And I bought this years ago.

I think I may have exactly the same version (Xcom -> UFO: Enemy Unknown). Does your install from cd work properly for Moo by any chance?
I always had to copy the whole directory to my hard drive first and run it from there instead.

	10-01-2003 09:23									#13
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From memory, I had to copy the whole directory too.

	10-01-2003 11:17									#14
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

ok question; I downloaded Moo from the web (several sources). All of the ones I have downloaded have had the quiz/copyright deal on it. I have patched them all to 1.3. Do any of you know of a good reliable site that would have the FULL game with no copyright protection on it for download? From what I remember the game IS abandonware right? Just trying to get to the point where I don't have to deal with the lame quiz during an incredible game...I love this freakin' game! Thanks guys.

	10-01-2003 12:11									#15
	Put an end to popups!

Why? Just find the chart - it's much easier to do the chart than to "crack" the game.

	10-01-2003 14:13									#16
	Support Apolyton

I have not see any without it, but just sav it from here or from else where on the web it is not very large.

	10-01-2003 14:58									#17
	Full PM-box? Change here!

There weren't too many people cracking games back then - I doubt a copy-protectionless version even exists.

	10-01-2003 19:41									#18
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Not worth the effort either, it's not something like a dongle.

	11-01-2003 12:29									#19
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ok, well thanks for the replies guys.

	11-01-2003 12:35									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

To remove the copy protection, use a hex editor and change starmap.exe:

address 71BE5
from 75 0D
to 90 90

The quiz will come up later in the game, but all the answers will be correct.

	11-01-2003 16:01									#21
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Mine, someone actually bothered to figure it out.