11-01-2003 19:15									#1
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Retreat is one big bug. Using it we are able to get as many slaver as we want from battles clearly a game unbalancement and ruiner. This will be forbidden at all.
But there also is the problem that the human uses it but the AI does not use it at al.l what gives a unfair advantage to the human player. Not to mention the nefarious use to see how many units there is in a city. So if we use it will only be a help fo the human. The AI will be a very badly injured if we do!

So my question is: Shall we use the retreat button at all???

	11-01-2003 19:16									#2
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I say no!

	11-01-2003 19:36									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Pedrunn The AI will be a very badly injured if we do!

The other question is whether we will be very badly injurded if we do not do it. So let's see how bad it will be and then we can still change our mind. But so far the answer is no, do not use the retreat option.

-Martin

	11-01-2003 20:09									#4
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No!

	13-01-2003 05:01									#5
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im the only one that said use it

	13-01-2003 05:08									#6
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We shall never surrender!!!

	13-01-2003 05:56									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy We shall never surrender!!!

	13-01-2003 06:25									#8
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No way, surrender as I said, "Is one big bug"

	13-01-2003 11:28									#9
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Im the MoD and i say we must never retreat, the losses are insignificant

	13-01-2003 13:34									#10
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Did Alexander retreat? No. Did Genghis retreat? No. Will the distinguished Lumerian army retreat? No.

	13-01-2003 14:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Devil of Truth Did Genghis retreat? No.

You don't know the first thing about Mongolian combat techniques, do you?

Anway IMHO in CtP2, retreating == (legalized) cheating...

	13-01-2003 16:12									#12
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Originally posted by Locutus

quote: You don't know the first thing about Mongolian combat techniques, do you?

Well your not loosing out there then DoT

	13-01-2003 17:33									#13
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No retreat, no surrender.
Our warriors shall feast in valhalla for all time

	14-01-2003 02:16									#14
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor No retreat, no surrender. Our warriors shall feast in valhalla for all time

WAR IS RAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NO RETREATING!!!!!!!!!!!!

	14-01-2003 14:28									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus You don't know the first thing about Mongolian combat techniques, do you?

Who said anything about the Mongols? I was referring to Genghis McKenzie. The pot-bellied, haggis-eating Scot who butchered a thousand Englishers using only a really nasty bout of Halitosis.

Tsk, tsk. Really Locutus. Get your history straight.

	14-01-2003 16:35									#16
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quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG Well your not loosing out there then DoT

Well, I suppose you have a point there...

quote: Who said anything about the Mongols? I was referring to Genghis McKenzie.

Hmm, I wonder what Genghis means in Gaelic?

	14-01-2003 16:45									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Hmm, I wonder what Genghis means in Gaelic?

I think it means: "He who doesn't retreat."

	15-01-2003 06:54									#18
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Pedrunn, after studying the constitution, it seems if you use this poll to decide the outcome of a turn, then you are violating the constitution (as it is technically unofficial). Unofficial polls shouldn't decide the governments policy.

	15-01-2003 06:55									#19
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i suppose i should point out that this poll is in no way whatsoever binding. as for it being unconstitutional i believe it is within the guidelines presented in the CON

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	15-01-2003 07:37									#20
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This is an unnoficial poll. I am just collecting information and checking out opinions.

So no constitutional violation.

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	15-01-2003 08:22									#21
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the constitution says: "(b) They may only exist to debate or gather information. Their outcome should not affect the course of the game or the policy of the government."

so you can gather info, but can't do anything with it according to the CON would an interesting peice of work is this Constitition.

	15-01-2003 19:12									#22
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WE WILL NEVER RETREAT!

but sometimes a war can be won by giving terrain to the enemy for a short period of time - so they get stuck, where we want them, while we are regrouping our troops

	16-01-2003 11:25									#23
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The whole idea of this thread came when i read this thread

And I questioned how eagerly do the citizens of Lemuria wanted to use this bugged option.

So just an unoficial thread

	17-01-2003 23:43									#24
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well, it shouldn't be exploited for slave generating, but i don't see a general problem with retreating if a battle turns out bad

	18-01-2003 07:24									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox well, it shouldn't be exploited for slave generating, but i don't see a general problem with retreating if a battle turns out bad

No Cookie For YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!Retreating is NOT an OPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!