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Fayadi is offline Fayadi
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Why does Manchu Infantry appears in the Modern age?Manchu's rule in China has ended in 1911. In www.microsoft.com/games/riseofnations/ages.asp they stated that Modern Age revolves around 1936 AD - 1968 AD.
Historical inaccuracy like that isnt good as Manchu Infantry is non existent in Modern age.
Brian Reynold,can you rename the Manchu Infantry to "Chinese Red Army" instead please!Chinese Red Army is worth it to become a special unit because they have fought the Japanese in World War II and Americans in Korean War and have made an extraordinary "Long March" .

There is some inaccuracy about the T-80 tanks and M1 Abrams tanks too. How can the speed of T-80 tank be faster than M1 Abrams tank?T-80 tanks speed is 42 while M1 Abrams is 40.T-80 has only 800 horsepower of engine while M1 Abrams has 1500 horsepower!I think T-80 tank advantage over M1 abrams is cheaper not more powerful as it is obvious M1 Abrams tank is the most powerful in the world(alongside with Leopard 2)
This is where I get the information from
http://ron.heavengames.com/gameinfo...formation.shtml

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I do agree with you about the chinese red army. But I feel that the T-80 is just fine being better than the abrams. It would be too unnalanced if the Abrams was that much better than the t-80.

One idea of mine is to make the t-80 and t-34 tanks some other color than yellow. It's not like they were ever yellow. What would be the point, Russia was never in the desert, (except for Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Aremenia, Georgia, Azerbijan, and other small countries) The majority of Russia was in the Northern Steppes. This would not need desert camoflouged tanks and infantry.

Maybe, in the expansion pack, the Russians will have a dark green, light green, or gray tank and infantry color, not yellow.

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yo What'd Up, im a Overseas Chinese living in SoCal
i love ur sig, whats ur name? if u can read it im ½ð·ºÏè a.k.a. »ÊÉÏ

and back on topic:
42 km or mph, the M1 does a little over 40Mph

and the Chinese Red Army is the BEST

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i agree with all yall

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Isn't it spelled Zedong in English?

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T-80 tanks indeed should have an advantage over M1 Abrams,but I dont think the advantage should be in speed,why not in hit points or attack instead?

"yo What'd Up, im a Overseas Chinese living in SoCal
i love ur sig, whats ur name? if u can read it im ½ð·ºÏè a.k.a. »ÊÉÏ"

Sorry I cant read it because my computer doest have the support.What is "Socal"?

My name in Chinese is "Lim Cheng Fa"

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south california here in usa

what does Fayadi stand for?

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Isn't it spelled Zedong in English?


yes it is

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yes it is


That is my English name.I am born in Indonesia with Chinese descent.Currently studying in Singapore and is going to further study in America. After studying I will probably go to Shanghai and live.My family had invested a lot in the mainland ( I have house in Beijing and Shanghai).China is my future so I must be patriotic!

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China is my history and Past and my Future so i must be patriotic!!!!

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China is my... erm... summertime and winter residence so I support the patriotic move to reinstate the correct spelling of Mao's given name.

I also think the Red Army (or HongJun) should be the modern special unit. The Manchurian Army was proven to be largely useless, but the Red Army did prove their skill and effectiveness in many clashes against the KMT.

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China is my... erm... summertime and winter residence so I support the patriotic move to reinstate the correct spelling of Mao's given name.

I also think the Red Army (or HongJun) should be the modern special unit. The Manchurian Army was proven to be largely useless, but the Red Army did prove their skill and effectiveness in many clashes against the KMT.


the Manchurian Army wasnt that useless at all, but the corruption in the very late parts of the Qing took out any strategic or moral advantages they could have had
but they were largely outdated

ur avatar is very familiar, who is it?

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The avatar in my picture is my cousin, QiMei. She's studying at the Hangzhou MaoYi XueYuan (Trade Institute) so unless you've been there, it's likely that you're thinking of somebody else.

She's quite cute though. She's very short and good natured.

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wow.

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i agree the red though that the chinese UU should change to the People Liberation army in the modern era

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I agree too that the People's Liberation Army should replace the Manchurian infantry in the Modern age. It shouldn't be called the Red Army because that came from the Soviet Union first.

Also, BHG needs to rethink the design of their T-34. If I remember correctly, The top was more rounded off. And also, the T-34 color is perfect right now. I think the T-80 should be the same color.

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I think the T34 is fine....its also depends on which variant they are modelling but it looks like what I've usually seen

i agree though that the T34 and T80 should have thje same color, so that it would be easier to identify at a glance that you are facing Russian tanks..

As for the People Lib army for China, even though by literal translation it is also Red Guards Infantry. It would be confusing to have the same name as the Russian unit. I guess they can just called it "People Liberation Army Infantry" but that sounds too verbose.

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How about "People's Liberation Army"?

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ya that works i was thinking maybe something even shorter

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its most commonly know as they PLA, but the People's Liberation Army should be the one they use, or People's Army is fine

the tanks and fighters currently in use by the Chinese Defensive forces are not silviet at all, in fact they wouldnt even give us their weapon.... mainly because we thought taht the fact that they werent free was too insulting but still in all seriousness

the current line of 3 to 6 models of tanks in China are totally ndependant of foreign copys, not to say we cant, but we need not to, the tanks seen in TianAnMenSquare in the 90's were not at all those used in China's army... i bet u can tell why

the F and B and A lines of the Chinese Air Force are also totally independant of their MiG ancestors

[B] i hope the game reflects this [B\]

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yes i saw a really good show on Chinese airpower in Discovery Wings Channel

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Discovery Wings Channel? is it part of the Discovery Channel?

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yes ...but on digital cable only

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sweet, i'd like to get digital cable... my grandparents have it

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Why not call the unique unit the JieFangJun? It's not as long as People's Liberation Army, and it means the same thing in Chinese. Plus it doesn't repeat the name of the Red Guard for Russia.

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Ya a chinese sounding name would be good as well...more flavour

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true.......... GO ½â·Å¾ü!!!

* watches the T-80 (or whatever the russians have) get slautered by a 3- man unit****

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*watches the Chinese flee from the Soviets in Zhen Bao Island on March 15 1969*

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