15-01-2003 03:36									#31
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Edit: Crap wrong thread.

Edit2: Yeah part of any MP game is building up a list of players you can trust.

	15-01-2003 10:29									#32
	Support Apolyton

so true, i use icq for my lists......its very easy, but man my list used to be long....its been whittled down now thts for sure.

	23-01-2003 20:36									#33
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

And as Hawk has said we dont all cheat on the zone.

	23-01-2003 20:41									#34
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Guys rhymes with Eyes.......Guys defends the Zone.......you do the math.

	23-01-2003 20:47									#35
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Eyes would think of a better name than that.... then again he did use quick acorn....

	23-01-2003 21:09									#36
	Get a bigger avatar today!

No you are all wrong. Heres a clue:When you are playing the game,who are the RED GUYS?

	23-01-2003 21:38									#37
	Get a bigger avatar today!

So you're a barbarian? Neat.

	23-01-2003 21:43									#38
	Increase the size of your Attachments

The Barbarian

	23-01-2003 22:17									#39
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Or The Eyes.

	24-01-2003 02:10									#40
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

or some sort of spies

	24-01-2003 06:21									#41
	Remove this text

Though I appreciate the apolytoner's call on labelling the trireme cheat a cheat, I resent all the belittling and malicious characterization of zoners. The typical jab here seems to be that anything that's played out of the 2x1x or 1x1x setting is "non-strategic," "tasteless," and "not-worth-our-time," and any civ players who float here from the zone are immediately looked on with suspicion.

This is totally elitist and closed-minded, not to mention without cause. The way apolytoners are looked on by the others should shed some light on what they really are: A chest thumping, closed-minded, elitist bunch who believe themselves to be the hot shots in every aspect of the game, its settings, and anything else that is even remotely related to the game. It's no wonder that the regulars here have amassed deity levels for posting 100's of replies. The place is kind of like cheers for them. This is a place where everybody knows your name, and in this little world, people glow in self-importance. Sad. Sad.

	24-01-2003 06:40									#42
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I just assume everyone at the zone cheats. I was playing someone there this week and getting lag when I was hosting, lol!

That was me you were playing.

I am sorry that you were having problems with your computer that day.

	24-01-2003 10:04									#43
	Suffering from ads?

Spartan...... i think many of the players here just don't like x2x2 civ as it makes for a horsie battle in so many games.....

many people like to drag civ out over 10 sessions before attacking

i have played all settings and although x1x1 deity is my favorite, i don't play it all that often.

my least favorite is x2x2 of course......but thats just my prefs.

the zones bad rep comes from so many quitters over the years, i am sure if some of these guys put in the time , they too would develop a core of good x2x2 players who don't cheat or quit.

origionally i was a zoner,way back late 98 and part of 99..... i don't play there much b/c 90% of the games are x2x2 king.....which just doesn't appeal to me very often....... but when it does, i know where to find a good game

as for the rest of the heathen here, i can't speak for them

	24-01-2003 10:24									#44
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Well Spartan_RawB... I think many of us have a problem with the zone because of the quiters. I know in our group, half the players don't drop out in the first few years if they get off to a bad start. Granted, some of your groups don't do that... but the average experience for most at the zone is that people drop quickly if they don't like the game

And like War, I'm also not a big fan of 2x2x games...
But that's just a matter of taste.

	24-01-2003 10:27									#45
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: Originally posted by Dylan Baker That was me you were playing. I am sorry that you were having problems with your computer that day.

The lag problem has continued since that game - maybe my CD is wearing out

	24-01-2003 11:14									#46
	Increase the size of your Attachments

The unsinkable Tri is a similar cheat to pre-worked settlers

	24-01-2003 11:15									#47
	Got spare money?

IE, the normal and complete turn cycle is being interferred with.

	24-01-2003 11:33									#48
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

the preworked set is a crafty technique, say i was mining a hill with wine, a barb shows up, i decide my warrior can't hold out so i build the instant fort....cheat...no , i switched jobs....

its like being able to still build HG once its built and then switching your shields to pyramids.....and noone complains about that...

even the boat isn't a real cheat, so its parked in the water, go up and sink the mother****er and

personally i dont' use the boat one though as it has been ruled a cheat by our group.....

realistically, you should lose half your shields anytime you change production....from set to legion, from temple to coastal fortress, from caravan to diplomat, etc etc..

	24-01-2003 14:04									#49
	Increase the size of your Attachments

Spartan: It is not without cause that we poke fun at the zone.......but we are not completely closed minded. A zoner such as Atawa fitted in great here, because he is a good an honest player. Any such player would get the same treatment.

	24-01-2003 16:06									#50
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by Spartan_RawB Though I appreciate the apolytoner's call on labelling the trireme cheat a cheat, I resent all the belittling and malicious characterization of zoners. The typical jab here seems to be that anything that's played out of the 2x1x or 1x1x setting is "non-strategic," "tasteless," and "not-worth-our-time," and any civ players who float here from the zone are immediately looked on with suspicion. This is totally elitist and closed-minded, not to mention without cause. The way apolytoners are looked on by the others should shed some light on what they really are: A chest thumping, closed-minded, elitist bunch who believe themselves to be the hot shots in every aspect of the game, its settings, and anything else that is even remotely related to the game. It's no wonder that the regulars here have amassed deity levels for posting 100's of replies. The place is kind of like cheers for them. This is a place where everybody knows your name, and in this little world, people glow in self-importance. Sad. Sad.

This is like a gay man claiming sex in public toilets is from the heart.

	24-01-2003 21:18									#51
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Spartan_RawB Though I appreciate the apolytoner's call on labelling the trireme cheat a cheat, I resent all the belittling and malicious characterization of zoners. The typical jab here seems to be that anything that's played out of the 2x1x or 1x1x setting is "non-strategic," "tasteless," and "not-worth-our-time," and any civ players who float here from the zone are immediately looked on with suspicion.

sadly its true, myself, Slowwhand, boann and many others have encountered nothing but suspicion and mistrust. we find ourselves ostracized from the community here for not only being from the zone, but for our frequent play on 2x2x while in gameleague. it's a good thing that our participation in tribes hasn't been discovered, or Ming would probably ban us outright.... oops....

	24-01-2003 21:34									#52
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard sadly its true, myself, Slowwhand, boann and many others have encountered nothing but suspicion and mistrust. we find ourselves ostracized from the community here for not only being from the zone, but for our frequent play on 2x2x while in gameleague. it's a good thing that our participation in tribes hasn't been discovered, or Ming would probably ban us outright.... oops....

There are reasons for our mistrust......Sloww has that beard, and Boann is the mother of he who shall not be named. As for you, well you just are a bad egg all round.

* DrSpike tries to hide evidence of CW's extensive and useful efforts at presenting Rah rules.

	24-01-2003 21:36									#53
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

lol, i think it was gameleague that really ruined it for x2x2 and alienated them, all we saw were constant ***** fests in the forums , where accusationis flew faster than bullets in a duck hunt

	25-01-2003 01:17									#54
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Last time I checked there weren't any good players on Apolyton, so who cares about their opinion? Does anyone really care what war4 has to say about civ2? I don't think so.

	25-01-2003 01:42									#55
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Just trying to figure out who he's trying to impress today. Based on experience, I'd have to say himself

	25-01-2003 06:23									#57
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by rah Just trying to figure out who he's trying to impress today. Based on experience, I'd have to say himself

is this directed at me

	25-01-2003 06:36									#58
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by War4ever is this directed at me

I wouldn't think so

	25-01-2003 06:41									#59
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

awwww hydey how sweet of you...

	27-01-2003 14:20									#60
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Why has our barbaric red guy joined the Civ2 Succession Game Group and not posted on Civ2/General?

SG[1]